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Civic ES 1.6 iDTEC - 3 yr test!

Today i had my new Civic ES 1.6 iDTEC delivered. Will be running it for 3 years on a Honda PCH lease.
Mileage: 53
MPG: 65.2

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Initial impressions

The Good
Milano looks great; 'Aero' wheels suit the car well;
Engine revs well, good torque in normal mode; ECO mode fine for most situations; eco dash lights work well; clutch take-up good
MPG living up to expectations;

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Gearbox shift quality great, like Fords of old; Cabin quality excellent (what you 'touch' feels great and well thought out);
Bluetooth works well with iPhone, streams calls and music seamlessly; easy setup; internet radio possible this way via phone/3G

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Magic seats truly the work of genius; cabin lights and instrument graphics excellent
New keyfob design much better
Steering wheel leather quality excellent
i-mid works well
Seats excellent
Reversing camera excellent with useful guidance graphics
Coming home lights useful addition (for me!)
Auto idle stop works seamlessly

The Bad
Refinement not quite up to Golf/Focus standards
Ride improved but not up to Golf/Focus standards
DAB not standard across the range
Tuner can 'ignore' and scan through some stations (will look at the manual!)
Tyre sealant instead of spare - not entirely convinced

Overall
So far so good...only 50 miles gone but great car.
More character than a golf IMO and engine/gearbox a real winner.
Combination of great MPG, good torque/flexibility and improved chassis dynamics through weight saving work very well. Interior quality and design builds on 8th gen strengths. Did a brief ECO mode test earlier and would estimate a 2-3mpg difference but long runs planned for next week so will verify with a better test.

Hope the pictures can be seen OK!
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Nice write up.
Good looking car.
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Glad you took the plunge and hope you continue to be pleased with it.

You mentioned about the rear view camera, yet I notice there is no Sat Nav. I take it the picture is shown on the I mid display when you are in reverse? Is the quality acceptable up on the top dash?
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You mentioned about the rear view camera, yet I notice there is no Sat Nav. I take it the picture is shown on the I mid display when you are in reverse? Is the quality acceptable up on the top dash?
Hi, yes, as soon as you engage reverse the i-mid display changes to activate the camera. Clarity is very good. The grid lines allow you to gauge distance, the broken line represents the point at which you can still open the tailgate with clearance. You can reverse further than this point.

Picture below of i-mid with reverse engaged.
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Additional info on the Reversing Camera from the manual. Guidance on approximate distances depicted on display.

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Thanks for the reply, and the pictures.
I'm fortunate enough to have the model with the sat Nav and as a result, the view comes up on that. I just wondered what the picture quality would be like on the I mid.

I do think the wheels look ok. Are they the standard for the 1.6. ?

Enjoy the car. I'll keep my eyes open for you next time I'm in Pocklington, but it would be much easier to recognise you with a sticker.
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Hi, thanks, the 'aero' wheel design is standard on all trim levels if you select the 1.6 iDTEC engine. Wheel design is therefore related to the engine choice.

Pocklington not that far away, i'm nearer Hull/Beverley but travel to York regularly which takes me through Pocklington.

Was looking at getting a sticker but wasn't sure how i order?
Will look on the forums again and will make a purchase.

Your EX looks a nice spec....
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First motorway trip today.
Hull to Leeds round trip via M62, approx. 120 miles.
Return leg of 57 miles, all motorway, eco mode and cruise control, legal limit and contraflow, with a 10 minute traffic start/stop resulted in 71mpg average.



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- 70mph relates to just under 2000rpm in 6th
- Eco undetectable on motorway cruise except for air con being slightly less effective
- Indicators now 'blink' 3 times if stalk moved halfway, as per BMW
- Very refined for road/wind noise; refined engine at cruise, slight diesel 'clatter' on idle
- Key fob operated mirror folding on 2nd press useful - on opening door, mirrors can also unfold automatically.
- Armrest cubby has small cable cutout to allow pass through without crushing cable with armrest lid
- USB connection charges iPhones/ipods as well
- Auto-stop works as well as BMW/Mini systems in use
- Gearbox has excellent change quality, light clutch

Also passed by a '13' plate Civic in Polished Metal....saw three 9th gen's in total...and about 20 Golf's!
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Hi, thanks, the 'aero' wheel design is standard on all trim levels if you select the 1.6 iDTEC engine. Wheel design is therefore related to the engine choice.

Pocklington not that far away, i'm nearer Hull/Beverley but travel to York regularly which takes me through Pocklington.

Was looking at getting a sticker but wasn't sure how i order?

Will look on the forums again and will make a purchase.

Your EX looks a nice spec....
Here http://www.civinfo.com/forum/site-su...port-site.html

Or the 4th tab in the main page
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Here http://www.civinfo.com/forum/site-su...port-site.html

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Great, thanks. Found it and paid my subs!
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Well done Dave for voluntarily joining!

71 mpg is pretty impressive, especially travelling a fair bit at National Speed Limit. Most I've ever had shown is 56, although quite happy with that.

I must admit that the spec level with the EX GT is up with Mercs, BM's and the like. I know leather isn't to everyone's taste, but I like it. Really gives the car a premium feel. There's also other nice additions as well, including an electric inside roof which slides right back giving the car a much roomier and brighter feel. HIDs are good and the updated Sat Nav and sound system are really good as well.

All of it does come at a premium though.....
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The one thing that never comes across in the photos is the steering wheel position and the dash instruments.

On my 8G I had to position the steering wheel vertical position so I could see as much as possible.

On the 9G they have sorted this and I can have the wheel fully lifted or fully lowered and I can still see everything.
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Valid point Kremmen.

One of the comments that I have read often ( apart from the rear end ), is the complaint about the steering wheel itself!

Apart from your statement about the positioning, do you find the actual wheel itself to be better than before? I think it is far superior in feel, touch and texture.
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I'm not fussed between each variant TBH. Once you know what buttons do what it's fine. Does seem slightly more padded.

The one thing I do need to get used to is the different HFT layout. The old 4 button setup seemed logical, this 3 button one takes some getting used to.

Initially I couldn't work out why it wasn't hearing my HFT commands. Then I realised that the top button is only used once to pick up the phone. From then on it's the bottom button to use the mic.

Also, when ignoring a detour offer for example it's not as quick to find the centre button without using pseudo Braille to find it via its dot.
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3 weeks & 800 miles...

Nearly passed the first month milestone, some comments below.

Civic continues to impress with its long haul abilities, practicality, fuel economy and the little details that make a difference day-to-day....
500 mile round trip to the south coast, three-up with luggage saw the civics cruising ability, economy and practicality show how impressive this car is. I briefly looked at a 1-series before getting the Civic and practicality stopped that in its tracks with the Beemer...the civic fully loaded with 2 female pre-teens, iPods, iPads, luggage, sweets etc was superb. No problem. I would have had to leave one on them behind if i'd had a 116d...i kid you not!
Bluetooth Streaming and USB connection of ipods/iphones worked great.
After the 520mile round trip, averaged around 67mpg, cruising at 70-75, three up with luggage, with ECON enabled.



Civic dutifully played the role of a delivery van in clearing my garage....picture below shows how big that boot is!!...try getting that lot in 116d, Golf or focus!





The other thing that has impressed me are some very inexpensive and simple details...again very minor things that can become important day-to-day and simply make normal life easier that other manufacturers/models can ignore..

Things like little seat belt clips that mean no hassle when folding down seats..


...others like multiple 12V sockets, those folding & heated mirrors with auto fold on locking, the retaining clip to hold the underfloot storage lid in the up position and the soft lined glovebox/storage cubbys to stop rattling...all simple, cheap but are appreciated day-to-day

Also ran the fuel gauge down to zero and added a further 10 miles before getting to a station to fill up so the gauge is accurate enough (i've found all honda's to have a decent 'reserve').

So far, so good...very impressed. Its a likeable car
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SE have one press all windows up/down operation from the remote keyfob.
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Certainly can't fault the Civic's practicality.

We recently when on a Mon-Fri trip to the Isle of Wight, the car cabin contained:

- Me
- Wife
- 3 year old in booster
- 7 month old in rear facing seat
- Changing bag
- Scooter (non folding)
- covers for buggy (underneath rear seats)
- Large cool bag
- Large carrier full of stuff

Boot contained:

- Large suitcase
- Large holdall
- Silver Cross travel system (not a small pushchair!)
- Travel cot
- Medium holdall
- Coats
- Another carrier
- Few other bits like buckets and spades

The Civic gives me a hatchback year round but has that extra boot space that means I don't need a people carrier or estate
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1st photo enlarged!

I so want a Milano, but worried since it's the thinest paint (chips) and if it will fade
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Dear Dreamer,
how do you get your mirrors to fold / unfold automatically?
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