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The 1.4 Petrol version

I've just spent 3 days with an 07 1.4 Civic courtesy car (5000 miles only on the clock) while mine was in for a minor bodywork fix. (thank you, Lady Dosser!)

I can't say that I liked the 1.4 much, in all honesty. (sorry if you own one).

It is so underpowered that it's a real chore to drive, having really poor acceleration and hill-climbing ability.
When joining main roads (even 30mph ones) I found that I was having to let decent gaps in traffic go by because I didn't have the oomph to merge in safely.

A steepish hill round here, that the diesel can take in 4th or 5th, was a struggle in 3rd with the 1.4 engine.
Perhaps the digital speedo doesn't help here, but going up hills was torture to watch as the digits went slowly through 27.....28.....29.
It was also very noisy in the lower gears, even at moderate revs, and there appeared to be no real acceleration advantage in holding the revs into the 5-6000 range.
It simply got noisier, but not much faster.
There seemed to be a bit more road noise, too, but that may have been down to the Dunlop Sport tyres.

On the plus side, once the car was rolling along in 5th or 6th, it was much more quiet and civilised and much more like the diesel experience.
Having said that, I didn't go far at that speed so I couldn't assess whether it ran out of steam and required lower gears on motorway hills.

Again to be a wee bit more positive, the economy was very much better than I expected.
On a 40 mile run of 40% motorway, 20% urban dual carriageway and 40% city driving, it ran at 43-45 mpg. Even in full city conditions it was around the 40mpg mark.
This is, unfortunately, achieved by not pumping sufficient petrol through the engine to generate any power!

All in all, driving the 1.4 Civic reminded me of nothing so much as an "Eco" Corsa I once hired in Mallorca - but more roomy and comfortable.

Again - sorry to all owners but it wouldn't be the version for me.
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If you can afford 15grand & insurance gr.9, 1.8L is certainly better than 1.4L.

I once test drove Civic 1.4(14grand+ins gr.4) and Jazz 1.4(12grand+ins gr.4), stability & confort on motorway was so much better on Civic 1.4.

In the end, I went for 1.8 Civic, though.
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I couldn't understand the pricing on the 1.4, it was only 600 cheaper than the 1.8 which equates to the price of the alloys. The only reason I could see for going for the 1.4 is if you need to keep the insurance costs down.
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I suppose the 1.4 is aimed at younger buyers who may not be able to afford the insurance of the 1.8 version but would still be able to buy the car.

Thanks for the comments LD, very interesting.
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Indeed HappyMan, I bought it for that reason.
I'm 23 years old, maybe in 2 years i'll be on the edge of buying a house. So I can't affort insurance companies and the state to be picking in my wallet.

When you buy a car in Belgium you don't only pay VAT, but you also pay BIV, that a tax to put your car on the roads, it was 61€ for the 1.4 and 867€ for the 1.8 engine.

Also the insurance was 300€ more expensive every year.

I came from a 1.9 TDI Volvo 460, which was very low weight and had a tremendous ammount of power, I really liked that car and that's the one and only thing I miss in the Civic, the accelleration. But then again, a house to live in is more important than the bhp's of a car.

I still like my Civic and hope to drive it as long as my Volvo or maybe longer (the Volvo was 13 years old)
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I like my 1.4 too, its great with the i-Shift!
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Rumour has it that the 09 1.4 will be the same engine as soon to be found in the New Jazz, a 1.4 VTEC lump with 100ps which should help a bit more with regards to power...
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:'( damn, i knew my feeling in the belly was right i should wait at least another year...
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Coming from a diesel, your review is just about what i expected. But i think you look at the 1.4 civic in the wrong way. Its there for people who want a good economical car and probably do lots of town driving.
But not succeeding in joining main roads? Cmon man thats just over the top. Even with my mums 1.2 ford fiesta which has 60 bhp its not a problem. Maybe driving diesel style in a petrol car?
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Everyone still stares at the Civic, even the lowly 1.4!
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Idd, very funny when i'm on the road, nearly 70% of the people i pass, stare at my car
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Coming from a diesel, your review is just about what i expected. But i think you look at the 1.4 civic in the wrong way.
Its there for people who want a good economical car and probably do lots of town driving.
I completely agree with you there that it will do that sort of job very well for a lot less money than the other models.

But not succeeding in joining main roads? Cmon man thats just over the top.
Well - that WAS my experience, honestly recorded. I thought it was awfully slow to accelerate; almost to the point of being dangerously slow when it came to entering faster moving traffic.

Even with my mums 1.2 ford fiesta which has 60 bhp its not a problem.
Maybe the Fiesta is much lighter than the Civic or the fine people of Belgium leave bigger gaps on main roads!

Maybe driving diesel style in a petrol car?
I don't really think so.
I've been driving petrol cars since 1969, this is my first diesel, so I reckon I know how to make a petrol car go all right.
As I said above, though, more revs didn't seem to equate to more power - just more noise.
At the end of the day, all judgements on cars are a bit subjective and the thoughts above are just my opinion.
Didn't mean to spoil your enjoyment of your 1.4!
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Maybe there was something wrong with the courtesy car, engine wise?
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