Join Date: 31st August 2007
Location: North Lincolnshire
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First Impressions of a 2.2 Type S GT
Thought I’d record my first impressions after picking up my new 2.2 SGT 10 days/800 miles ago.
Quite different to anything else I’ve driven. I swapped a 2.0 Z4 (petrol of course) for the Civic, but had a latest 5 Series 2.0 diesel before that, and have had other (lower tech) diesels in the past.
The Civic has an amazing amount of torque, but seemingly at a very narrow rev band in the middle of the range. This gives more in-gear flexibility than I’ve ever experienced before, and makes it almost as relaxing an auto to drive in busy traffic. However I do miss that thrill of watching the revs climb as you wait to change gear, and it seems to respond better by changing gear ‘early’.
For motorway cruising in 6th it’s loads better than the 520 was, as there’s never a need to change down.
The car is so smooth on the motorway, and so eager in 6th, plus the throttle so sensitive, that it’s hard to keep the speed legal. The cruise control is definitely a real boon.
Slightly disappointed at the moment considering ‘running in’ carefulness, at only 41 mpg. The 520 despite its size, never did less than 44. Hopefully it will improve with use.
Compared with the 520 it sounds positively ‘truck like’ at low revs, although the Civic vibrates far less than the BM at tick-over. There is also a pinking like ‘crackle’ when acceleration begins which I did not notice on the test car.
The test car did create a ‘nice’ turbo whistle at higher revs, but this doesn’t seem as noticeable on mine, although I’m trying to keep the revs down below 4,000 at the moment.
Not any noticeable rattles. The rear suspension can be noisy of course (but much more acceptable than the TR), and if I drive with the windows down (trying to emulate the Z4!), the sun blinds bounce up and down.
Generally very good for FWD. The turning circle is poor compared with the Z4, but that’s understandable. The steering responsiveness around the centre position is top notch, but I’m getting the feeling it quickly snaps into under-steer as you pass a certain degree of turn. Obviously a front drive trait, but the transition seems very quick on the TS.
Also surprising is how easily I can squeal the wheels with the VSA on, although I guess it’s not a ‘proper’ traction control as on the Z4.
Feels like a Roller compared to the Z4! And hasn’t got the sickly ‘bounce’ that stopped me buying a TR. No complaints here. (on std. 17” btw)
No problems, don’t mind the rear view (gives it character!).
Would have preferred the TR, but no complaints, apart from the hard scratchy plastic. Not sure of the benefits of the glass roof for front seat occupants.
Seat comfort seems fine, and finally I find a car where the headrests come far enough forward.
Seems silly you can start the car when in gear (and wouldn’t be surprised that the button is still live when the engine is running – but don’t want to test it!).
Looking forward to fitting speaker upgrade and powered sub when it arrives (Pioneer). Also fitting Parrot kit and Connects2 Aux input at same time.
Not driven in rain, or much in the dark yet to comment on wipers/lights.
Slightly disappointed with the overall subjective ‘quality feel’. I know I’m coming from 2 BM’s (and a TT before those) but I’ve found most Honda’s are a closer match than the new Civic. (I also have a last model CRV and find that has a better ‘quality feel’.
Overall though I'm well pleased. I down traded the Z4 to save my back from melt-down, and find the SGT just as much fun, and what it loses in 'purism' it gains in 'useability'.