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Question Whiteline Rear ARB problem

Advice needed from anyone who has one and fitted it themselves.

I bought and fitted a Whiteline rear ARB to my FN2 CTS. It was fitted by a skilled mechanic who has spend 40+ years building and racing rally/hillclimb cars.
After about a month, I noticed the back end had returned to the handling state before it was fitted. Took a look and the washer on the bolt that secures the ARB to the spings lower mount was stretched and had popped through the hole:

The hole the washer covers is quite large, not much smaller than the washer itself.
Is this the same for anyone else who has fitted one of these or are my components different? I cant find any other instances of this issue on this forum or the wider world of google.

I have replaced the washer with a new thicker one and added an extra bolt between the bracket and the spring mount to improve, but curious if I am alone in this.
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Sad to hear they have problems, mine should be here before the weekend so will reply when I get around to fitting.

I had one on a Bertone Astra I had years ago. Bar the rubbish paint work as it chipped so easily, it was a good bit of kit.
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I agree, a fantastic mod and makes so much difference. I compete in hill climbs with my CTS and it gives so much more confidence with the ARB fitted.

The thing is, I am not sure if its a design problem with the kit or my car has been modified in the past.
Feedback from all other drivers having these on civics is top notch. Cant see a product getting that good a rep with such a flaw.
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dont they come with multiple washers so you fit them i a reverse pyramid to lock in?
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Not my kit, no.
All washers were used with no leftovers and the instructions only mentioned one washer.
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Fitted mine other day, not impressed at all with the design

There is alot to criticise, but in fairness the car handles great
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Thats different to my kit - dont think the extra washers were there and the chap who fitted it definitely had none left over.
I'ce checked my revised fitting - after several 'rigourous' journeys with lots of fast bends and they are still ok, so hopefully its secure now.
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Fitted mine other day, not impressed at all with the design

There is alot to criticise, but in fairness the car handles great
My heart says "weld it" the head says "take off and sell if I change cars"
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Ah - I can post pics now.

Here is the washer, popped through

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0eoizii8m...85028.jpg?dl=0

Here is the size of the hole in the spring cup - the clean metal is the ARB bracket beneath

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmihcuez8x...10308.jpg?dl=0

Here is my revised fitting with extra bolt

https://www.dropbox.com/s/812zo9udhm...20312.jpg?dl=0
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Ah - I can post pics now.

Here is the washer, popped through

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0eoizii8m...85028.jpg?dl=0

Here is the size of the hole in the spring cup - the clean metal is the ARB bracket beneath

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kmihcuez8x...10308.jpg?dl=0

Here is my revised fitting with extra bolt

https://www.dropbox.com/s/812zo9udhm...20312.jpg?dl=0
That looks worrying

Think I might copy that idea
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It does line up with an existing hole in the spring seat - I didnt need to drill, but I did need to use a spring compressor on one the offside spring to give the clearance to pop the bolt in. The coil of the spring got in the way.
Loose fit all bolts so there is play to wriggle the bracket to line up all the holes and it will be fine.

I'm still going to keep an eye on it every weekend.
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It does line up with an existing hole in the spring seat - I didnt need to drill, but I did need to use a spring compressor on one the offside spring to give the clearance to pop the bolt in. The coil of the spring got in the way.
Loose fit all bolts so there is play to wriggle the bracket to line up all the holes and it will be fine.

I'm still going to keep an eye on it every weekend.
Also, after chatting with the friend who fitted it, if it stretches and pops through again, we will remove the spring seat and weld in a support to plug the hole the main bolt uses, drill 11m hole in it and bolt the bracket to that. Then we retain the ability to remove the ARB if/when I sell the car and replace it with a CTR .
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