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Tie / Track rod ends

Hi all,

I’m having some trouble getting hold of the appropriate track rod ends for my car.

I ordered some which were confirmed to be the correct size, didn’t fully check, fitted to car and unable to fully adjust the tracking as they are too long.

I have scoured eBay as I feel 50 a side from my local parts place is quite steep for a usually 10-20 part.

Any how my main concern is getting the right size... so has anyone changed these and if so, what did you get? Have any issues?

(From the centre of the spindle my old ones seem to be about 190mm, and about 203mm overall.)
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Bought and fitted a set of blue print rods for €25 each and fitted a couple of weeks ago from Mister auto, no issues at all, they were identical size and tracking was just off slightly until I took it to alignment centre, and its 100% after
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I looked at them, but the only ones that seem to get the size right are the moog ones (which apparently aren’t the right ones for my car)

They are 188mm from spindle to end... all the rest seem to be 195mm+

So I think I will be going with them.
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Update

So I got the Moog ones and they are also wrong compared to my car, not only that but people list them at 188mm (more like 200mm from spindle)

So I am at a loss as to why these parts don’t fit.

Rang Honda and they can’t provide the dimensions but will charge me 100 a side and will need to be ordered.

I know this may seem strange, but is there any chance the inner could be causing the issue - as in not screwed in all the way? Or would need to be replaced to accommodate a longer shaft? (Which seems OTT)

Any help is appreciated (as always)
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I have just ordered a set of inner and outer from autodoc.... got me worried now! Both are listed as 195mm



https://www.autodoc.co.uk/meyle/13842957
https://www.autodoc.co.uk/meyle/13842956
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I’ve had a phone call from one of the parts suppliers and he seems to think that my issue stems from the parts changing and that there is also a change in inner? (As in longer thread to screw onto)

This would mean I would need to change the inner.

So if you are changing both I’d imagine that would alleviate the issue in having (if yours were the same?)

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Here are the Blueprint part numbers:

Left - ADH28776
Right - ADH28774

Drop those numbers into ebay, double check the advert to confirm they are Blueprint and those part numbers and buy.

They are a straight fit, no messing around.

Good quality too. I changed mine a couple of months back and no issues.

Here is the spec for the right one:

Height or Thickness 74 mm
Internal Thread M14 x 1,5
Length 217 mm
Outside Thread M12 x 1,25
Wrench Size (Metric) 19 mm
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Thanks for the info!

The problem is they are too long, and the same size as the ones I got to replace them.

I have decided I’m going to t the new tie rods down to about the original length.

I think the issue stems from the inner tie rod not have enough thread for adjustment with the new outer tie rods.

Gonna check inner thread lengths and see how much I can chop off.

Otherwise I’m just gonna be biting more parts (new inner tie rods)
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This sounds like a crazy idea, these parts are made with fine tolerances and precision, if you cut the end of it and it's not 100 percent straight maybe the locknut won't make a proper bond to the tie rod and work loose in future. It if was me I'd be getting the rack examined to find out the true cause of the issue, be that inner rods etc. This is the steering wheel connectivity to the cars wheels, so pretty important for safety.
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Although what you said is correct that would mean I wasn’t bothered with it working properly.

However it has been modified correctly, all parts fit snug and together as they should. And the car has been re-tracked with no issues.

I have bought and sent back 3 pairs of track rod ends and none match what I took off my car, all the same tolerances as the original replacement ones. So I’m happy with the result. I’ve had no problems with my steering in the 6 years I’ve owned the car either.

With all that being said I am confused as to why all the replacement ones are a diff spec to the ones I took off my car though.
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