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Civic Type S Standard Ride Height?

Can anyone tell me what the standard ride height is for the 8th gen Type S 2006 1.8? I know it is 15mm lower than standard Civic but can't find any forums with the actual ride height and how it's measured. Doesn't necessarily have to be the correct(?) way to measure ride height as bottom edge of rim to edge wheel arch trim or hub to edge of wheel arch trim (vertically!) should be fine and much easier to get a rough gauge?

Just trying to get an idea of if it's been lowered already as it already bottoms out quite a bit and looking at JOM Blueline coilover kit as a budget replacement for all springs and shocks as local Honda Dealer quoted 270.95 each for shocks alone!!! I know these probably aren't the best but will be fine for me if they don't lower the car anymore than it is already!

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As far as I know there is no difference in the ride height of the Type S and the 5 door. I think its only the Type R that's lower than standard.
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Can anyone tell me what the standard ride height is for the 8th gen Type S 2006 1.8? I know it is 15mm lower than standard Civic
Sounds like an urban myth to me.
After a quick Google that pretty much anyone could do, I found the ground clearance spec of 5" or 127mm HERE and the various models are all the same (with the possible exception of the Type R which is not listed).
Is not the ground clearance specified in the manual?

Or has Mr. Google let me down with false news? As other specs HERE suggests 170mm
And yet another for the 2006 says 140mm HERE .
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Thanks for the info. Last link is the correct one for my car but as the details suggest this is ground clearance and difficult to measure without scrabbling under the car and there is no room to do this.

Would really appreciate it if someone with an 1800cc Type S of similar age could measure distance from front wheel centre to edge of trim, vertically? Shouldn't make any difference but mine has the standard 225/45 17 wheels.

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So I've measured the centre of wheel to trim edge with measurements as follows:

Front - 350mm
Rear - 370mm

Took some pics but can't seem to upload them???

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Not enough posts, but don't worry about it, we know exactly what you mean.
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Thought that was probably the case! Hopefully someone with a similar Type S will get back to me with some comparative measurements.
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Hello, can some one help? I've just replaced a Shocker from a Civic Type S on a Civic Sport Cdti, the ride height on the replaced Shocker is lower, not sure if it's a dud shocker or its meant to be lower...
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the ride height on the replaced Shocker is lower,
I can't help you much but there were apparently several different ride heights for the Type S. So it's probably lower by design. i.e. You have fitted the wrong shocker for your car.

But you could help mad_mickey by taking the measurement he is asking for on the type S shocker side.
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No takers on the Type S ride height???
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The ride heights from M8TJT's link describe the type S ground clearance at 140mm and the 5 door car at 150mm both 17'' wheels.

If that relates to UK vehicles then it appears 10mm lower for the Type S.

Regarding distance changes measured from wheel centre to body wheel arch/trim, I would say coil spring length and degree of resistance (harder/softer?) would dictate that, rather than any particular shock absorber.
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No takers on the Type S ride height???
I'll measure mine later for you. I have standard wheels and standard ride height. Still have original Honda shocks and springs too.
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Thanks all, just trying to get a rough idea if my car is currently at standard ride height and I think quickest and easiest way to do this is as outlined above with the car on flat surface and measuring wheel centre to lowest edge of trim vertically. Looks to be the same as other similar Type S visually from pics but difficult to tell. Would really appreciate those measurements shakman87. Cheers.
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Regarding distance changes measured from wheel centre to body wheel arch/trim, I would say coil spring length and degree of resistance (harder/softer?) would dictate that, rather than any particular shock absorber.
That's what the OP suspects, that someone has put shorter springs on it to lower it. The shocker will come into the conversation if the distance between the wheel centre and the bottom spring mounting is different.
But the measurement between the wheel centre and the wheel arch would, I suspect, be a good measurement to see if the car has been lowered. This measurement will be the same regardless of wheel diameter. But wheel size will affect the ground clearance and the beloved tyre top to wheel arch distance.
The thread has been confused by shakeman86 jumping in with a different problem, but fortuitously, as he can measure his.
I suspect that, as no one has come in with the answer to mad_mickey's problem, that either no one owns a 2006 Type S 1.8 or they have not read the thread. So there seems little point to me in repeatedly asking the same question hours apart.
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So I've measured the centre of wheel to trim edge with measurements as follows:

Front - 350mm
Rear - 370mm

Took some pics but can't seem to upload them???
Yes, our car is'nt a 3 door; however, when the car (exgt petrol) is back on the drive later this evening I'll measure its wheels centres to arch trim.

Should the measurement by any chance be 10mm greater than yours (give or take a couple of mm !) it may at least indicate your vehicle is at standard ride height. ( replaced our springs last year standard spec replacements)
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So I've measured the centre of wheel to trim edge with measurements as follows:

Front - 350mm
Rear - 370mm

Took some pics but can't seem to upload them???
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Yes, our car is'nt a 3 door; however, when the car (exgt petrol) is back on the drive later this evening I'll measure its wheels centres to arch trim.

Should the measurement by any chance be 10mm greater than yours (give or take a couple of mm !) it may at least indicate your vehicle is at standard ride height. ( replaced our springs last year standard spec replacements)
Our car -'59 exgt petrol with replacement springs/standard spec fitted around a year or little longer ago- wheels centre to wheel arches- Front-350mm. Rear-350mm.

S'ppose it's possible the rear springs could have 'settled' a little bit (there has been some full loads in the back in our use!)
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Thanks cb550, although even more confused now. Would have expected Type S or Type R Civics to have lower ride height than all other 8th Gen Civics. Would be good if someone else preferably with Type S could also supply the aforementioned measurements? Cheers
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Never thought or felt my type S sat lower on the road than did the three 5doors i've owned/own.

Not saying it did or did'nt, but for example never felt any differently getting in or out or that it felt closer to the tarmac when cornering for example.

Given the specs quoted for the differing ground clearances dependant on 3 or 5 door cars, just a thought, but if ground clearance is a measurement taken from the lowest point of the car to the ground, possibly for example if the type S has a different /lower front spoiler that would qualify ?
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Another minor thing but is there a list on here to confirm model codes i.e. I think mine is an FN1???
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1.8 3 door is FN1

I don't remember anything about the Type S being lower than the 5 doors. Perhaps the different bodywork and larger wheels makes it appear closer to the ground?

it just has a wider track and stiffer shocks to the 5 door.
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