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tbh even though i bought my 4yr old honda from main dealer, it aint going to them for servicing period, take it to a reputable independent mechanic/garage. im lucky mine is family run and the son is a motorsport driver and he services my Type-r and does any perf mods :)

your paying top whack for "specialised Honda trained vehicle technicans" plus a timing belt/chain is a big job on any motor vehicle, its crack open the engine to replace and rebuild, and @top whack rates, a few hours labour soon mounts up ;)

i had a timing belt go on as 87 Toyota corolla at 70k when i was young, it was cheaper to buy a reconditioned engine than repair the damage done, not doing it will cost you more than the price quoted to prevent it snapping, bending all your valve stems and other lovely internal engine parts. with the high RPMS of these, eeew it would be very messy indeed i would suspect.
 

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In the late 90's I had a belt go on my 1.8 Astra the irony was it was booked in for a service and belt change as I had reached the recommended interval but it went a few days before, it cost me around £500 back then to get the valves fixed. If you tend to drive quite hard best to have it changed before the scheduled interval
 

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It also kinda depends on an engine by engine basis.

Some of the earlier BMW chain driven straight 6 engines and Japanese chain driven stuff tends to have pretty stout reputations for reliability whereas there's quite a bit I've read on more modern VW chain driven engines having serious issues.

I believe the Mazda MX5 had non interference belt engines, so they could be driven till they snapped and all that would happen is you'd need recovering. A new belt and the car was good to go again. Obviously that's still a somewhat silly idea but it would be far from engine ending.

Guess it could be argued that belts are rubber and fibre so have an inherent weakness whereas chains will never snap although a jumping or slipping chain wouldn't be good. I don't think chains simply go wrong either, they'll make a lot of noise and it'll be clear they're having problems long before anything happens.

Belts used to have a refinement edge but that's not relevant anymore from all the R&D put into chain engines...
 

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Honda indy quoted me £1300 just for belt change.
Honda told me to spread the cost get the belt changed then wait 6 months for the major 6 year/75000 mile service!!!
Quoted me between 2-3k for both
 

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I didn't think you had to take out a mortgage to service it! that's a ridiculous amount, if it was me I would sell the car or at least shop around independent garages
 

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Like I say decent Honda indy £1300-i told Honda I would sooner part x it before I spend £2-3k on a service -he told me you will just get 2k knocked off the value of your car in a part x like I have said before it's not a bloody BMW M5 etc it's a 1.0 litre civic FFS!
 

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That's utterly appalling, basically they're saying if you go Indie your car will be worth less?!

My 3.0 V6 Alfa that's approaching it's 20th year of life doesn't cost me that for a service and I've had some significant work done to it over the years...

I blame Ford for the 1.0 turbo [email protected], too bad other manufacturers followed suit instead of designing stuff that might get to 100k without high performance sports car repair bills!
 

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In the late 90's I had a belt go on my 1.8 Astra the irony was it was booked in for a service and belt change as I had reached the recommended interval but it went a few days before, it cost me around £500 back then to get the valves fixed. If you tend to drive quite hard best to have it changed before the scheduled interval
Same here with my Astra, I managed to pick up a replacement engine with half the mileage for £300, a mechanic friend charged me £100 to swap over and we sold the damaged engine for parts for £50. 👍
 

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Honda indy quoted me £1300 just for belt change.
Honda told me to spread the cost get the belt changed then wait 6 months for the major 6 year/75000 mile service!!!
Quoted me between 2-3k for both
No way I'm paying that - the car will be changed whether that be a Gen 11 or something else

The brother in law had been interested in buying it off me but I don't think he will want to now and I can't say I blame him
 

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I didn't think you had to take out a mortgage to service it! that's a ridiculous amount, if it was me I would sell the car or at least shop around independent garages
Its not just aservice mate replacing timing belts/chain is a few hours labour and semidismantling the engine to change, nott just an oil change n filter swap. Thats the cost pure labour for the time it takes. If you ask any branded dealer to tackle this on any car it will cost serious wedge.
 

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Its not just aservice mate replacing timing belts/chain is a few hours labour and semidismantling the engine to change, nott just an oil change n filter swap. Thats the cost pure labour for the time it takes.
too right Honda charging £120/hour at least is what kills it
 

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Its not just aservice mate replacing timing belts/chain is a few hours labour and semidismantling the engine to change, nott just an oil change n filter swap. Thats the cost pure labour for the time it takes. If you ask any branded dealer to tackle this on any car it will cost serious wedge.
It wasn't normal servicing i was on about but the ridiculous cam belt change service schedule! ie the dealer doesn't tell you its going to cost that amount further down the line when you're buying the car hence the mortgage quote
 

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Held over a barrel too as not doing it is as good as writing off the car. Bits of random rubber clogging the internals isn't going to be too amusing and will make the belt change look cheap.

Mate remarked at work that paying Main Dealer ($tealer) prices for servicing is a false economy as you pay over the nose for simple oil changes so anything you gain in residuals you've already lost by paying them. I don't 100% agree but he has a point!
 

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Guess this make a lot of sense why you can't buy the Honda service plan to cover the 6 th year service, when I bought my civic last year (3 years old) they would only sell me a further 2 years on the discounted dealership service plan.
 

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it might also explain why used car sites like Autotrader and Honda's own used car site are awash with 1.0L civics
 

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It wasn't normal servicing i was on about but the ridiculous cam belt change service schedule! ie the dealer doesn't tell you its going to cost that amount further down the line when you're buying the car hence the mortgage quote
This is not unique to Honda mate every timing belt change costs the earth ;) try BMW and their hourly rates. Or toyoya or renault or VW ;)
The dealer wo t say because it is a part of running a used car after 50k miles from any manufacturer, they are sales orientated, not watchdog buddy.
The onus is on the buyer to research running and maint costs for the time you aim to keep it. Timing belt change should always be factored in if you take any car over 50k in 32years of owning cars cam belt\chain is always factored into my research before buying a car.

Joy of keeping a car past 70k miles replace and be good for another 75k or chance it and not do it. But if it does go, it can trash the engine block.

Ive had that on a toyota it was cheaper to swap the engine out than repair post belt snapping damage.
 
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