[xxDIABLOxx]

Hello!
Does anyone have experience with that material used for clutch. We all know for our slipping problems, and that for now mostly CG 6 paddle is best solution. And from experience of Coste1l with his Kevlar made clutch - NOT GOOD, I still trying to ring many of garages here: Many of them talking me that I get them OEM clutch (not pressure plate) and they will put there material Sintered Bronze - for example 4 paddle will be enough (that is 8 plates of material - both sides), but I'll go 6 or 8 to be more secure from slipping. One of those told me that can build totaly new clutch without springs inside (like from CG I see..), and says that there will not be juddering - he just need OEM for diameter and tooths...
I'm little afraid if that will be missed thing so asking for some experience here. And as I can see CG for his 6 paddle doeing same thing - takeing 325 clutch and rebuilding it with new material - and pressure plate is probably the same..

I see that guys for Ferrari useing that material (from another forum):

"Can anyone recommend a good shop to reline sintered bronze clutch discs?"

"Centerforce
If these guys can't do it, it probably can't be done"

"FYI sintered bronze is the material used in 360 and 430 Challenge race cars."

Tilton and Centerforce - good companies....

 

[xxDIABLOxx]

I THINK THAT I MAYBE FIND A SOLUTION FOR OUR CLUTCHES (except CG 6 Paddle wich is proven as good one with little juddering).
I talked with very good ingeneer of Intercars company. He told LuK and only LuK to put in there.

WHAT ABOUT LuK Self-Adjusting Clutch (SAC) ?? !!!
READ: LuK | Products | SAC 1
http://www.luk.de/content.luk.de/en...tch_pressure_plates_new/sac2_new/SAC2_new.jsp

 

[Chip]

My CG 5 or 6 paddle (I'm not sure) is made by LUK anyhow!

 

[coste1l]

the less pucks the greater the clamping force so a 4 paddle will clamp harder than a 6 but much harsher to drive i had a 3 paddle in a car years ago and it was like a lightswitch you could not slip it at all. there is no springs in a derv clutch as the dmf is sprung instead

 

[hondacivicnut]

The SAC and the DMF are a POS idea. The sooner manufacturers drop them, the better :worms:

 

[xxDIABLOxx]

Must say that I dont understand what is "POS idea". But as engener told me - this is the best way... and as I can see LuK selling all kit for 2.2 i-CTDI ( but I'll go without DMF because high cost..hope mine is still good at now only 40k miles without slipping until now..)

 

[xxDIABLOxx]

the less pucks the greater the clamping force so a 4 paddle will clamp harder than a 6 but much harsher to drive i had a 3 paddle in a car years ago and it was like a lightswitch you could not slip it at all. there is no springs in a derv clutch as the dmf is sprung instead

I think that this clutch is without paddles - whole circuit so no judder...dont know - I'll probably go tomorrow in shop to check more details (if wife dont want to go somewhere else..). And that for SAC I think that is no problem with Torque and slipping...

 

[coste1l]

pos = piece of poo luk make the standard clutch i doubt their solution will be viable

 

[hondacivicnut]

pos = piece of poo luk make the standard clutch i doubt their solution will be viable

You said the polite version

 

[coste1l]

im well behaved!