[Rumple Foreskin]

Hello chaps. Car is in for a service and they found that injector no.2 is leaking.
They've tried to remove it but it's stuck fast. They're now getting a company in to remove it. They said the cost of that is around £80-£100.

If the worst happens and they damage the injector, how much is a new one?

 

[Jon_G]

Around £350 for a new one. Make sure that they update the ECU with the new injector code!

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Around £350 for a new one. Make sure that they update the ECU with the new injector code!

£350!?


Oh my word.

 

[baldbiker]

Around £350 for a new one. Make sure that they update the ECU with the new injector code!

Just seen recon units for £90 . It's worth asking them first about were they are sourcing it from unless its with a honda rip off centre.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Just seen recon units for £90 . It's worth asking them first about were they are sourcing it from unless its with a honda rip off centre.

Where did you see those recon ones?

 

[mike1967]

Around £350 for a new one. Make sure that they update the ECU with the new injector code!

i got a autocom cdp=/delphi that encodes prettymuch most things ( injectors), £64 from china, its cheaper than the £80-£180 a garage will charge.. its best to try and remove these injectors when car is at running temperature really does make a massive difference, because the alloy hole in the head expands a little more than the injector,,

 

[mike1967]

Hello chaps. Car is in for a service and they found that injector no.2 is leaking.
They've tried to remove it but it's stuck fast. They're now getting a company in to remove it. They said the cost of that is around £80-£100.

If the worst happens and they damage the injector, how much is a new one?

those hydrolic ram type injector removal tools are very good, but sometimes they break the injector in half then its head off and pray can machine it out.. without breaking off the machine bit tool, then it really does get twisted. use one alot on peugeot hdi engine,, also removing them when engine is hot helps things.

 

[Sprotty]

Honda tried to fleece my dad £900 for 2 injectors. Got some recon ones for £280 ish for 2. They should have a slide hammer to remove them. I would always recommend going to a diesel injection specialist for this kind of work.


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[baldbiker]

Where did you see those recon ones?

Just type in civic injectors into browser. There is a workshop in Newbury that's meant to be the dogs, but I can't think of the name at the moment.

 

[mike1967]

Honda tried to fleece my dad £900 for 2 injectors. Got some recon ones for £280 ish for 2. They should have a slide hammer to remove them. I would always recommend going to a diesel injection specialist for this kind of work.


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2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTi, Executive, 1 x diesel fuel injector | eBay try this link

 

[Jon_G]

2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTi, Executive, 1 x diesel fuel injector | eBay try this link

No... early (2004 and 2005) diesel Accord injectors are NOT the same as 2006-on Honda diesels. This 2006 car needs Honda part number 16450-RMA-E01 injectors... Honda CIVIC 2006 2.2 EX INJECTOR (DIESEL) - Original Honda Parts | Lings Honda

In any case, if I was going to all the trouble of replacing an injector (and paying to have the ECU re-coded), I'd at least want a refurbished one.

 

[mike1967]

No... early (2004 and 2005) diesel Accord injectors are NOT the same as 2006-on Honda diesels. This 2006 car needs Honda part number 16450-RMA-E01 injectors... Honda CIVIC 2006 2.2 EX INJECTOR (DIESEL) - Original Honda Parts | Lings Honda

In any case, if I was going to all the trouble of replacing an injector (and paying to have the ECU re-coded), I'd at least want a refurbished one.

whats the difference in them jon. i have used autocom a number of times encoding secondhand injectors na22 2.2 i thought use the same injectors in all na22 engines, ie interchanged from civic/accord/crv with na22 engine codes and never had a problem, these injectors seam to last well... cheapest way to encode them is buy a autocom cdp then install injector in to car then code to encoding options in software and follow the instructions its child play, £64 for autocom compared with a £150+ bill from a garage, guess the early injectors were changed later on in some way,

 

[Jon_G]

I honestly don't know Mike... I guess there's a good chance it would work, but I wouldn't want one of my injectors to be a slightly different design to the others!

In 2006 the i-CTDi engine went through a lot of modifications. Pretty much every part of the injection system (certainly fuel rail, fuel pump, injectors) got a revised part number (Bosch numbers changed, not just Honda) and the EGR valve changed from electric to vacuum. Timing chain tensioners were completely modified and I expect there's a few other things that also changed.

 

[seannyc3]

Mike, where did you find your autocom for that price?

 

[mike1967]

Mike, where did you find your autocom for that price?

OBD2.COM i got 2014 cars trucks bikes direct from china, with all leads.. was £64 plus postage, i swear by it best bit of kit i have ever owned,, i bought a renualt grand scenic other day with hand brake issues, ie handbrake is encoded to car,, autocom/delphi mated them up first time with no issues. i put a airbag ecu in a peugeot 807 other day, mounted it on car autocom encoded to car,, i have only found one car so far its not very good with and that mazda mx5 2.5 2002, it wont deal with airbag ecu. but will deal with fueling and obd circuits and remove read fault codes,,

 

[mike1967]

I honestly don't know Mike... I guess there's a good chance it would work, but I wouldn't want one of my injectors to be a slightly different design to the others!

In 2006 the i-CTDi engine went through a lot of modifications. Pretty much every part of the injection system (certainly fuel rail, fuel pump, injectors) got a revised part number (Bosch numbers changed, not just Honda) and the EGR valve changed from electric to vacuum. Timing chain tensioners were completely modified and I expect there's a few other things that also changed.

you are right part numbers are different between years , honda got the fueling very right the first time around i think, these injectors have been used from day one, spray patterns according to city diesel electric in plymouth are the same from day one as is design of borsh injector,, i went through all this with them before i try'e early parts on a vehicle.. a lot of vag stuff is interchangeable between skoda and vw audi seat etc,

 

[SykomantiS]

While we're on the subject of injectors (sorry about thread jack)- how much more expensive would it be to go for bigger injectors (more power)? And what exactly would one be looking at? (part numbers, details, etc.)

 

[mike1967]

While we're on the subject of injectors (sorry about thread jack)- how much more expensive would it be to go for bigger injectors (more power)? And what exactly would one be looking at? (part numbers, details, etc.)

better off spending money on remap, then a twin plate clutch. after that if looking at more fuel then dealing with a borsh dealer and going down the road of modifying the injector with big nozzles maybe,, fuel pump is another item more pressure needed to run more fuel to injectors,, then there is the turbo to deal with more fuel means more compressed air,, and then trying to get all that to work properly will take a lot of time and money.. better off buying a type r and sticking a charger on it,, or just have a £300 remap and a £1000 clutch and flywheel. this is all diesel. petrol engines there are companys offering superchargers with remaps and bigger injectors to suit

 

[SykomantiS]

I meant looking at injectors (and rest of the fuel system) after you've upgraded clutch and turbo and remapped- there's no point in even thinking of the injectors otherwise. I'm thinking along the lines of a report I've seen on here of a 300hp diesel.