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Hi guys. After 2-3 minutes of starting the car and driving, the VSA and ABS warning lights appear on the dash. I've checked the fuses (fuse 4 inside the car for the abs + the 20/40 amp fuse under the bonnet for the vsa) according to the owners manual. The car brakes as it should do within the time the warning lights are off to when they come on, and when they do, the brakes don't work as well and it makes a grinding/vibrating noise as if the ABS has failed. Does anyone have any info or other checks I could do as I really do want to have to hand it into a dealer as I don't fancy getting my pants pulled down with the financial climate as it is with myself, any feedback would be great.
 

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Hi Debbie - I'm sure someone else will jump in here with some extra checks as you ask, but as a fellow girlie, if you know you've done nothing to have it be like this with you - mine'd be straight back to the dealers before it could say handbrake recall.
 

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sorry peeps I didn't mention it's a 55 plate ctdi sport so unfortunately out of warranty, damn it.
 

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Hi, as your car is out of warrenty I can only say ( if you don't mind getting your hands dirty ) that the first check would be your ABS sensors.

Jack the car up and remove the wheel then remove the ABS sensor and ensure its clean also check the "toothed ring" the sensor counts, Ensure the sensor is clean and the toothed ring is clean of corrosion do this on each of the 4 sensors ( one on each wheel ) and this may solve the problem.

You'll see the ABS sensor on the back of the wheel hub as its the only bit with a wire attached to it.

Can't think of anything else it might be so a costly trip to a dealer may be your only choice.

However if your in the AA or RAC drive the car a few miles untill the light comes on and then ring them up, they have computers on there vans that might tell you whats wrong, alot cheaper than paying your honda dealer to find the fault
 

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Hi, i just had same thing when i was on the beach and driving circular about 10 times to get my sister sick :rolleyes: the ABS and VSA came on on multi display scren and VSA turned it self off. I thoud that it is becouse of brake fluide or some kind of the other fluid which will go to the one side of tank then you going round and round and sencors thinks that there is no fluid or somthing. i turned off engine and after 1 minute started again and everything was fine ;) so i fink first thing check all fluids couse both at the same time must be some stuff like that! Hope its helps ;]
 

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Hi guys. After 2-3 minutes of starting the car and driving, the VSA and ABS warning lights appear on the dash. I've checked the fuses (fuse 4 inside the car for the abs + the 20/40 amp fuse under the bonnet for the vsa) according to the owners manual. The car brakes as it should do within the time the warning lights are off to when they come on, and when they do, the brakes don't work as well and it makes a grinding/vibrating noise as if the ABS has failed. Does anyone have any info or other checks I could do as I really do want to have to hand it into a dealer as I don't fancy getting my pants pulled down with the financial climate as it is with myself, any feedback would be great.
A grinding vibrating sound is felt through the pedal when the ABS kicks in, so I would think there is a fault somewhere.

Dealer ASAP in my opinion.
 

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When the pads are worn down the wear limiter makes a gringing noise/squeal when the brakes are applied so that you know to change the pads. If they're worn down the fluid level would be low too, unless it's been topped up at it's service where they would have noted that the pads were low. You can see the pads through the wheel spokes front and rear, if they're down to a few millimeters then probably they're best changed.
One thing that's sure, don't scrimp on your brake system; you really need them to work properly.
If your battery voltage is low you get these warning lamps too, so worth checking it's fully charged up.
 

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cheers for the replies guys, the pads are fine MC but cheers anyways as I've had the limiter grind when the pads got low the last time I changed them. I'll try and clean the sensors this weekend if I get the chance, the first thing I checked was the brake fluid level which was fine. Does anyone know if I'm checking the right fuses? its the fuse inside the car for ABS (fuse 4) and fuse 3/3A under the bonnet for VSA? anyone?
 

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As Andy I says very likely one of the wheel ABS sensors.Worth taking for diagnostic-look in yellow pages for local specialist.Probably cost around £30 which will identify which wheel.Just a case then of picking up a sensor,wheel off and on with the new one
 

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yeah honda quoted me 69 quid for a diagnostics check even before they carry out any work so I don't think that will happen. has anyone went down the RAC route? as the car is driveable, will the RAC come out to say Tescos car park and tell me what the problem is? even know I can actually drive the thing to a dealer?
 

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Also don't forget to check the break fluid level...
 

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I suspect they would come out, Deb - if there's any doubt about the car being in a driveable condition.

When my aircon went - big bang, nasty smell, lots of smoke - I was advised to cut my weekend away short as they couldn't guarantee it wasn't something Very Bad Indeed or something very minor. While the car would still drive, did I want to take the chance of it going BANG in the outside lane of the M25? Er, no. Turned out to be a loose O-ring, but ...

I'd say the ABS and VSA lights are there to indicate a problem with the ABS and VSA, which in itself is going to be some Very Bad Indeed. Or, as you suggest, maybe the lights themselves are connected wrongly. The question for you is, do you want to take that chance? How lucky do you feel?

If Mr RAC-man has the diagnostic equipment, use it. That's what yer pays yer money for.
 

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Hi guys. After 2-3 minutes of starting the car and driving, the VSA and ABS warning lights appear on the dash. I've checked the fuses (fuse 4 inside the car for the abs + the 20/40 amp fuse under the bonnet for the vsa) according to the owners manual. The car brakes as it should do within the time the warning lights are off to when they come on, and when they do, the brakes don't work as well and it makes a grinding/vibrating noise as if the ABS has failed. Does anyone have any info or other checks I could do as I really do want to have to hand it into a dealer as I don't fancy getting my pants pulled down with the financial climate as it is with myself, any feedback would be great.
The car brakes normaly with the lights off, but worse with the lights on?
I can think of two things (just theory, ok?)
-It may be a problem with the VSA. The car probably doesn't break worse, you just "feel" it. It's perhaps because of the EBD. Try a few things:
Before the lights come on, see if the VSA and ABS is working. Try wheelspin for the VSA TCS and a violent brake to to feel the ABS kicking in. Then do the same after the lights are on. Can you turn the VSA off and on again? See if it's any difference.
The problem may be with the ECU (or whatever the name is) of the VSA.

-The grinding noise could indicate poor lubrification. Perhaps the fluid pump?

Regardless, I know money is hard to come and easy to go, but on such an issue it is a good idea to get it check asap.

Best of luck!
 

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hey peeps just a quick update, got a diagnostics check done at my local garage (RAC told me I could drive the car when I rang them, ah well) anyways it turns out the fault was a dodgy brake light switch. Not sure how this makes the ABS and VSA go belly up but it cost 98 quid all in to get sorted, that was including 45 quid for the check. cheers for all your inputs.
 
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