[philliboy]

Howdy folks,

Well after a couple of days from my trip to Abp for the suspension the tunning bug is catching.

Now looking to fettle with the brakes and engine.

What would be a good upgrade for the brakes over OEM in terms of dics,pads and hoses, companies prices etc?

Cheers
Phil

 

[coste1l]

i would go with hoses a motul rbf600 fluid as a start sumopowers do luck hoses are cheap i think?

 

[Chip]

I have just paid £225 for yellowstuff pads and Mtec grooved discs all round. I got the pads from EBC direct and the discs from MTEC. When you consider it would be around £240 to replace the Tarox front discs I had previously alone......

 

[philliboy]

i would go with hoses a motul rbf600 fluid as a start sumopowers do luck hoses are cheap i think?

Cheers coste, will do.

I see loads of listings for FN2 but I assume I can't simply "bolt on" to my Fk2?

Wouldn't mind a set of large powerslots from ABP but again not sure if this would fit even with the calliper brackets. Would I have to change the hubs? I had them on my old ek vti and was impressed with ss hoses and mintex 1144 pads and want the same feel/performance.

 

[coste1l]

yes if you upgrade to ctr brakes firat! they would have been my next step if i wasnt happy with my current set up

 

[coste1l]

type r hoses are a straight fit mate

 

[philliboy]

Well thats the 6 line stoptech ss hoses ordered and should be here on Monday.

I have also been looking at the Tarox G88 Front & Rear discs, Ferodo DS2500 pads f&r and Motul RBF660 fluid, think that set up should do the job

But before i purchase these can anybody tell me if the following would fit my FK2? website just classes as "other civic"

Powerslot Big Brake Kit (Front) - FUNKY POWER

I had them on my old ek4 and i liked the look of them behind the wheels with SS hoses and mintex 1144 pads and want the same performance on my fk2.

Cheers
Phil

 

[J. Derek Riddell]

Well thats the 6 line stoptech ss hoses ordered and should be here on Monday. I have also been looking at the Tarox G88 Front & Rear discs, Ferodo DS2500 pads f&r and Motul RBF660 fluid, think that set up should do the job But before i purchase these can anybody tell me if the following would fit my FK2? website just classes as "other civic" Powerslot Big Brake Kit (Front) - FUNKY POWER I had them on my old ek4 and i liked the look of them behind the wheels with SS hoses and mintex 1144 pads and want the same performance on my fk2. Cheers
Phil

Personally, I'd get the EBC Turbo-Groove disks and Ferodo DS2500 pads - with those and 'SS' hoses and Motul RBF600, you'll be sorted ...

The powerslot kit could be a problem clearance-wise for the 1.8 (according to ABP) - as Coste1l said, if you want to upgrade the fronts, fit Type R disks and calipers ...

 

[philliboy]

Personally, I'd get the EBC Turbo-Groove disks and Ferodo DS2500 pads - with those and 'SS' hoses and Motul RBF600, you'll be sorted ...

The powerslot kit could be a problem clearance-wise for the 1.8 (according to ABP) - as Coste1l said, if you want to upgrade the fronts, fit Type R disks and calipers ...

Had Ebc turbo grooves on my ek4 on the rear and wasn't impressed, lasted 6 months with mintex 1144 pads so will never go down that route again.

I am running 15mm eibach spacers would this not be enough to solve the "clearance issue"?

 

[J. Derek Riddell]

Had Ebc turbo grooves on my ek4 on the rear and wasn't impressed, lasted 6 months with mintex 1144 pads so will never go down that route again. I am running 15mm eibach spacers would this not be enough to solve the "clearance issue"?

Mintex seem to be too soft - I have EBC Turbo-Groove disks and Greenstuff pads, and the combination is very good indeed - and I have 15mm Eibach spacers all round, but that's seemingly not enough for a 'BBK' ...

Later this year, I'm planning on Type R front brakes (EBC TG disks and OEM calipers) and either Ferodo DS2500 or Cosworth Streetmaster pads ...

 

[philliboy]

Mintex seem to be too soft - I have EBC Turbo-Groove disks and Greenstuff pads, and the combination is very good indeed - and I have 15mm Eibach spacers all round, but that's seemingly not enough for a 'BBK' ...

Later this year, I'm planning on Type R front brakes (EBC TG disks and OEM calipers) and either Ferodo DS2500 or Cosworth Streetmaster pads ...

I assume the type r caliper just bolts on and takes up the extra space from moving from 282mm dics to 300mm disc?

The reason why I ask is the powerslots I was looking at was 300mm and said brackets supplied to space out oem caliper.

 

[coste1l]

they do mate!

 

[philliboy]

they do mate!

Thanks, I assume then the oem or aftermarket CTR dics would fit straight on as well then?

Any idea how much for a set of CTR front calipers? Seen a set for £200 on here and unsure if a decent price.

 

[J. Derek Riddell]

Thanks, I assume then the oem or aftermarket CTR discs would fit straight on as well then? Any idea how much for a set of CTR front calipers? Seen a set for £200 on here and unsure if a decent price.

Coste1I said that they do (he has them fitted, and I'm planning the same) ...

However, according to what I thought (and he confirmed), the EP3 (2001 - 2006, 7th. Gen,. Type R) calipers are just the same ...

Look at "AZCARPARTSUK" - brand new calipers for £225 !!! ...

 

[Fr0d]

I assume the type r caliper just bolts on and takes up the extra space from moving from 282mm dics to 300mm disc?

The reason why I ask is the powerslots I was looking at was 300mm and said brackets supplied to space out oem caliper.

They are almost "bolt on" up to the point of changing/modifying splash shield. The CTR discs simply wont clear the splash shields without you either:

a) Changing your FK2 splash shields to the larger FN2 items (new wheel bearings needed ).
b) Modifying your existing splash shields to clear the FN2 discs (not easy if you have no metalworking expertise).
c) Doing away with the splash shield altogether. (Not something I'd do, but others have).

I saved a packet and opted for b). My car now brakes well enough for a mapped diesel!

 

[philliboy]

They are almost "bolt on" up to the point of changing/modifying splash shield. The CTR discs simply wont clear the splash shields without you either:

a) Changing your FK2 splash shields to the larger FN2 items (new wheel bearings needed ).
b) Modifying your existing splash shields to clear the FN2 discs (not easy if you have no metalworking expertise).
c) Doing away with the splash shield altogether. (Not something I'd do, but others have).

I saved a packet and opted for b). My car now brakes well enough for a mapped diesel!

Thanks for the detailed breakdown Fr0d, is there a how to in relation to modifying splash guards as I work for a engineering/fabrication company sure I could get a mate with welding skills to rework?

Cheers
Phil

 

[Fr0d]

As far as I know, I'm the only one who's attempted it. I didn't think to do a How-To (doh!) - kinda wish I did now. :facepalm:

You will need to remove the 3 splash guard retaining screws with mole grips (there is no room for a screwdriver, as the hub is in the way) and cut a chunk through the guard with tin snips in the smallest bit behind the caliper. Next wrestle the guard off the hub - you will bend the guard doing this, but there is no other way (without removing the hub).

Once off the car, you'll need to get your mate to plannish out the joggle around the edge of the splash guard, as it is this area which touches the rear face of the larger FN2 disc. They'll need to get it nice and flat, as any lumps will hit the rear of the disc, when re-assembled. Watch they don't squash any of the dimples, though! (You can't plannish these out, and will make a right mess of them trying).

Next its a case of refitting and carefully bending the splash guard back enough so it doesnt come close to touching the back of the disc, whatsoever.

I'll repeat that: ***The splash guard should not touch the disc AT ALL*** If it does, redo it.

Easy! :worms:

 

[griffian]

Good luck with the splash guards!

The other option could be buying type r hubs. There are some on E bay that has the type R splash guard on. The caliper will bolt straight on then.

 

[J. Derek Riddell]

Good luck with the splash guards! The other option could be buying type r hubs. There are some on E bay that has the type R splash guard on. The caliper will bolt straight on then.

Got a Link ? ...

I've now sourced the Calipers and Disks and Pads - but the Guards do concern me a 'tad' ...

 

[Fr0d]

Good luck with the splash guards!

The other option could be buying type r hubs. There are some on E bay that has the type R splash guard on. The caliper will bolt straight on then.

There is a small issue with that idea, if you mean swapping out the hubs and knuckles with attached splash guards to FN2 items.

The upper flange bolts on an FN2 are M16, compared to M14 of all other models.

Thats why there are 2 different types of camber bolts for front FRS, depending on if you have an FN2 or any of the other Civic models.