[steve286]

Currently I'm not too impressed with the standard brakes on my CTR. When braking from speed there is a grinding noise from the front and the front disc itself looks in a poor state and in need of replacement, it has a rusty rim around the outside of the friction surface and some scoring etc. Performance of the brakes is best described as variable. Seeing as the OEM discs/pads are regarded as pretty rubbish to begin with I'm thinking upgrade, So...

Been looking through the forum and see a popular disc is the EPC turbo groove, however these are very expensive at £189, the EPC plain vented discs are cheaper at £129 - I know the marketing line about drilled/grooved discs but are they ACTUALLY better for road use? Or is it mainly cosmetic? Looking on other forums some don't seen to rate EPC that much at all, saying Brembo is far better - Brembo plain vented discs on ebay for the EP3 come in at less than £60 (and apparently these will fit front FN2), so even more confused! How can these be better than EPC at less than half the price?! Or am I missing something?

Thinking Cosworth Streetmaster pads all round (rear discs on car look ok) and possibly HEL lines and Motul fluid.

Any advice appreciated - thanks

 

[Anatonic]

You won't go far wrong with even a basic pad and discs change to say EBC plain discs and Greenstuff pads (if you wanted to save money) - it'll be a notable improvement over the standard items and won't break the bank. You can always upgrade lines or fluid in the future - especially if you're not confident in doing the job yourself, you could have the lines and fluid fitted at the same time you have a service done or something to reduce labour costs.

The way to look at Turbo Groove - or any drilled / grooved disc for that matter - is that they'll generally be able to handle a higher temperature than your plain / solid vented discs due to their design. For road use, it's probably not worth the difference IMO as you never get enough heat into the brakes, and you may not be using an aggressive pad - but I track my car, hence the reason for the Turbogrooves on mine - and the Yellowstuffs really do seem to give the discs some wear too due to their compound (the Yellows also take a lot of bedding in which was a PITA to be honest).

I went for Turbogroove with Yellowstuff pads on the front - also got some Do-Luck lines from Sumo Power and RBF600 (Motul) fluid. The difference over OEM was crazy and I'm glad I made the upgrade - the addition of the lines and fluid has stopped me from getting a long / spongy pedal on a trackday or in spirited driving.

 

[steve286]

Thanks very much for advice. I think i'm going to stick with plain discs as you suggest. I'm still struggling to understand why the EBC's are so much more expensive than the Brembos. That said i'd probably go for the EBC's on the basis that expensive = better!

Have changed brake discs/pads before (on a focus) but don't really feel that confident doing lines and fluid, plus the hassle of disposing of all old fluid and parts... will probably just take it to local garage and get them to do it all at once. With the rears, provided there is plenty of wear left do you see any problems just leaving OEM pads/discs for now and only upgrading fronts? Or would it cause problems because the fronts will working better harder than the rears?

 

[steve286]

Did you get Sumopower to fit the lines and change the fluid as well? Or did you just use a local mechanic?

 

[coste1l]

my brake setup is spot on and thats hauling in a heavier car. lines fluid and pads imo dont know much about the cosworth pads someone on here didnt think they were as good as ferodo i may try bluestuff next

 

[HonDan]

Im a new Type R owner and have to agree the brakes are pretty scary!

On my previous cars and my track car i have used black diamond drilled/grooved and black diamond predator pads all round, with braided hoses. The stopping power is outstanding.

Ill probably go this route on the R due to knowing they work well.

Although, dont be fooled by the "black disc", they go silver after they have bedded in! I was sad when i tested them and got out to see they had turned silver!