Can I have your opinions on paintwork?

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s21tac

Discussion Starter · Mar 4, 2012

Hi all, id be intersted to know your opinions on the paintwork on the honda civic. I had a Nighthawk black 2008 civic and it had stone chips on the bonnet and front wings.

I found the paintwork to be of poor quality on the civics e.g. then chip easily.

The thing is I had this car on contract hire through Lex Autolease and when it has gone back at 3 years old and 58000 miles on the clock they have just invoiced me for £400 for the chips which I would consider fair wear and tear on this vehicle.

Id appreciate any opinions as to if other people have had problems with this or whether you would consider this 'fair' wear and tear.

Thanks

Tom

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coste1l

· #2 · Mar 4, 2012

i would take them to court for it with the huge amount of evidence listed here. we go to extraordinary lengths to keep our cars pristine far more than your average owner and the crap paint just flakes off....

sent from my phone

phil739

· #3 · Mar 4, 2012

Surly they can't expect the car to come back new after 3 years of lease
Suppose there has to be a happy medium.
So you buy a new car from dealer and take it back after a year with stone chips and asked for it to be fixed under warranty
I know there answer. Lol

delta0

· #4 · Mar 4, 2012

I and i'm sure others could provide pics of stone chips on the paint work. It is very common. Mine is at 27k miles and has them.

steve fox

· #5 · Mar 4, 2012

Tell them to whistle for their £400

judderman

· #6 · Mar 4, 2012

have a search around on here mate, will provide you all the answers you need, the paint is as much use as a chocolate fireguard!

RobertUtley

· #7 · Mar 4, 2012

I have loads of the little blighters iny covered 60k in my nhb civic do not pay if they take you to court put up a thread and im sure everyone will email images I certainly will and contact details for you to use in court

Fr0d

· #8 · Mar 4, 2012

Don't get me started on NHB stone chips - its the worst colour there is for it.

I'd take that invoice back to whomever sent it and tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine.

As mentioned, theres lots of evidence of stone chip damage on 8th gens on here.

Jpetrie

· #9 · Mar 4, 2012

Yup as stated, paintwork is terrible on these cars. I would refuse to pay that and take them to court if necessary. You've made them enough money having that car for 3 years, that bill is a joke.

robbo51

· #10 · Mar 4, 2012

The main reason I no longer drive a Honda
Appalling paint!!
Refuse to pay it!!

sirkuk

· #11 · Mar 4, 2012

Every single Civic I've laid my eyes on has suffered from stone chips. Mine isn't too bad in comparison to the majority I looked at but still has far more stone chips than any other car I've owned.

J. Derek Riddell

· #12 · Mar 4, 2012

1} Don't budge an inch with the leasing company.

2} The evidence shows 'NHB' as the second most chipped colour ('MR' is 1st.).

3} The anecdotes are supportable by a Poll in the Forum.

4} A large part of the problem, is that Honda use the same off-white undercoat, irrespective of topcoat.

5} Don't play the "all Honda paint is useless" card - it's not - 'GG' is actually quite resilient.

6} Simply repeat that it was, or should have been, known to them at the time both parties undertook the contract.

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J_H

· #13 · Mar 4, 2012

As long as it is the same chipping as seen elsewhere you'll be fine.

If you have some really bad chunks (talking 50p sized etc) that have been caused by leaving smaller areas untreated then that is different.

That extreme example aside I totally agree with everyone else and would not be willing to pay.

s21tac

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 5, 2012

Thank you for all your posts, I know where the car is going to auction and have a copy of the auction report which shows they have even scratched it in their care lol. Ill go down the auction to get pictures to prove they have not had it repaired and with the backing you guys have shown i can put a decent case together.

Thanks again

Tom

coste1l

· #15 · Mar 5, 2012

good luck mate!

sent from my phone

tomo2001

· #16 · Mar 5, 2012

s21tac said:
Hi all, id be intersted to know your opinions on the paintwork on the honda civic. I had a Nighthawk black 2008 civic and it had stone chips on the bonnet and front wings.

I found the paintwork to be of poor quality on the civics e.g. then chip easily.

The thing is I had this car on contract hire through Lex Autolease and when it has gone back at 3 years old and 58000 miles on the clock they have just invoiced me for £400 for the chips which I would consider fair wear and tear on this vehicle.

Id appreciate any opinions as to if other people have had problems with this or whether you would consider this 'fair' wear and tear.

Thanks

Tom

Mine went back after 3 yrs peppered on the bonnet and no charge whatsoever from lease co. (Inchcape)

twmprys

· #17 · Jun 20, 2012

We've just given a Ford Focus back to Lex Autolease after 3 years, almost mint condition - and they want £453.25 for wear and tear!! These people are criminals!! Don't touch them with a barge pole!

egomaniac

· #18 · Jun 21, 2012

twmprys said:
We've just given a Ford Focus back to Lex Autolease after 3 years, almost mint condition - and they want £453.25 for wear and tear!! These people are criminals!! Don't touch them with a barge pole!

This sounds like a good warning, can we make this a sticky?

With the values being so similar I have a feeling Lex Autolease are trying it on with motorists. They seem to think they can have £400 regardless of the cars return condition.

Name and Shame I think.

anderstf

· #19 · Jun 21, 2012

I'm really shocked at this as they're now part of the Lloyds TSB group.

BWFC

· #20 · Jun 21, 2012

anderstf said:
I'm really shocked at this as they're now part of the Lloyds TSB group.

Lloyds TSB group, well enough said there then,

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