[smig]

Whats the main advantage/disadvantage of the 2 types of kit?

I want to buy a starter kit, and have seen the following kits, which are approx the same price:-

DAS-6 Meguiars DA system
DAS-6 - Meguiars DA Microfiber System - Clean Your Car

DAS-6 dual action polisher - Meguiars kit
DAS-6 Dual Action Polisher - Meguiars Kit - Clean Your Car

DAS-6 dual action polisher - Sonus and Menzerna kit
DAS-6 Dual Action Polisher - Sonus and Menzerna kit - Clean Your Car

Any comments and advice would be appreciated

 

[robbo51]

Megs microfibre kit is the way forward and gives a fantastic result

 

[regan1985]

DAS-6 dual action polisher - Sonus and Menzerna kit

Thats the kit i purchased, its was good but i have since moved on o 3m pads as i found they gave better results

 

[-kev-]

i'd go with normal foam pads for a beginner - several people on detailingworld have reported the microfibre system removes more paint than you may think - 5 microns + in most cases, which would be similar if not more than a compounding pad and something like 3m fast cut plus, one case of this was on a VW Golf which usually has a pretty hard clear-coat so it would remove even more on soft, thin Jap paint. the less agressive approach of foam pads is needed on these imo

 

[AdamR]

I bought the DAS6-PRO from clean your car with the sonus and menzerna kit, now in all honesty I think the kit is really good value for money for a beginner but you will soon learn how to use to polisher properly and you will find out that it takes ages with a DA to get the results you are looking for. However saying this, I have never done a honda but I have heard that the paint is really soft so it doesn't take that much effort.

If I were to buy a kit again, I would go for a rotary straight away for two reasons...

1) They are cheaper to buy.
2) They get the job done quicker.

If you do go for a rotary then I would suggest getting hold of some spare panels from a scrap yard to have a little practice on to make sure that you are comfortable before letting go on your pride and joy

 

[-kev-]

^^^^ very good advice about the practise panels, its a shame some people are so put off by rotary polishers as they work faster. practise and take your time and you'll be fine. also worth reading these two guides on detailingworld;

DA - Machine Polishing by Dual Action Polisher - Full Guide - Detailing World

rotary - Machine Polishing by Rotary Polisher - Full Guide - Detailing World

 

[Heavenly]

I wouldnt be put off the microfibre system personally because the overall finish is better than rotary and da traditional methods and a flatter optically clearer clearcoat. your as good as jeweling at the same time as cutting and kev is correct it can remove more than a foam pad but with the benefits of safe removal on certain paints and only if your going aggresive at ait. Its possible to wet sand orange peel away within 6 to 8 microns if done correctly , removing the peaks an lowering them so the last stage is the only stage that actually touches the lowest point of the clear where your infact taking depths away , microfibre its possible to do this also within 3 sets if done agressively.
Personally if it were me id be buying this but because i have and the results ive gained on certain cars over foam have been fantastic.

Dont forget code H9118 for 8% off or anything on the site.

Meguiar's G220v2 DA Microfibre Starter Kit (5 items) - Shinearama

 

[smig]

Thanks for the advice guys.
Is there any actual difference between the Megs G220v2 and the DAS-6, or are you paying more for the Megs machine because its branded?

 

[-kev-]

found the G220 to be quieter and smoother (less vibration), the DAS6 PRO is a more powerful version of the DAS6..

 

[wanner69]

I bought the DAS6-PRO from clean your car with the sonus and menzerna kit, now in all honesty I think the kit is really good value for money for a beginner but you will soon learn how to use to polisher properly and you will find out that it takes ages with a DA to get the results you are looking for. However saying this, I have never done a honda but I have heard that the paint is really soft so it doesn't take that much effort.

If I were to buy a kit again, I would go for a rotary straight away for two reasons...

1) They are cheaper to buy.
2) They get the job done quicker.

If you do go for a rotary then I would suggest getting hold of some spare
panels from a scrap yard to have a little practice on to make sure that you are comfortable before letting go on your pride and joy [/QUOT

Some are cheaper but most good quality rotarys are more expensive than DA's

 

[AdamR]

Admittedly there are rotary polishers which can cost well over £200 but for the level of use that the OP is suggesting then there is no real need to spend any more than about £100 on a rotary.

If you are considering a rotary then the clean your car ep8000 is worth a look (im sure -kev- has one) and also the sim-180 along with the silverline rotary. All of these mentioned are sub £100 and will do the job better and quicker

 

[wanner69]

Admittedly there are rotary polishers which can cost well over £200 but for the level of use that the OP is suggesting then there is no real need to spend any more than about £100 on a rotary.

If you are considering a rotary then the clean your car ep8000 is worth a look (im sure -kev- has one) and also the sim-180 along with the silverline rotary. All of these mentioned are sub £100 and will do the job better and quicker

Big difference working a rotary than a da IMHO and more capable of doing damage too in the wrong hands so saying it will be quicker and better is not necessarily correct as your technique and skills has to be perfected more so with a rotary than a da, Yes can be quicker but can also look a mess,that's just my thoughts and some experience using both.

 

[AdamR]

There is no point in causing an argument over this, however I did state clearly in my previous post that it is recommended to get used to it on some scrap panels before trying to correct your own car.

I agree with you, it is best for a beginner to use a DA to start with, however it is costly doing it this way as you will soon pick up the technique and ultimately the confidence which will make you want to progress to a rotary which would then leave your DA unused.

This is ultimately down to personal opinion and the OP should do what they feel comfortable with, I am just giving my view from personal experience that is all.

 

[-kev-]

i have indeed got an EP800 rotary (you on detailingworld i take it adam?..) got my eye on one of these though
i did have a kestrel sim180 but found it too heavy after a while (around 3kg), giving me terrible wrist ache (i badly broke my left wrist years ago so a throw back to that really). only thing i don't like about the EP800 is the speed control wheel being on the back where the cable comes out, whereas its on the top of the sim180

 

[wanner69]

There is no point in causing an argument over this, however I did state clearly in my previous post that it is recommended to get used to it on some scrap panels before trying to correct your own car.

I agree with you, it is best for a beginner to use a DA to start with, however it is costly doing it this way as you will soon pick up the technique and ultimately the confidence which will make you want to progress to a rotary which would then leave your DA unused.

This is ultimately down to personal opinion and the OP should do what they feel comfortable with, I am just giving my view from personal experience that is all.

+1 good words

 

[robbo51]

Adam..The OP wasnt referring to a Rotary at all and wants to know what pads to use with a DA polisher

 

[rowbo]

Dont know if this helps but i went straight for a rotary and got this off ebay

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vi...=2&nav=WON&nid=90644142579&trxId=834714685017

 

[robbo51]

Similar to mine
Ive ditched that now in favour of a Megs 220 v2 DA
(Might be selling it soon)
Lighter and safer IMO
I appreciate that Rotary's have their place...I believe a DA is a safer option for amatuer detailers