[ash_rage]

Hi

Called a few of my local dealers about putting a deposit down on the new Type R, basically they told me no chance and came across very defeated about the amount being allocated to the UK.

Does anyone know how many the UK will get per month and has anyone else had similiar issues in trying to get in the queue for one?

I dont care if i wait 12+ months, just wanted to get my name down and get in the queue

 

[rob.e]

Honda Civic Type R (2023) review: dazzling all-weather genius from new 325bhp hot hatch

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CAR says just a couple of hundred allocated. I would guess they already have many times that number of deposits placed, hence why they are saying "no" to any new ones.

Makes me sad it's going to be so rare and also disappointed about the price, but you can't argue with Honda's logic - if they can't sell very many then put the price up, makes complete sense. USA list is much lower than uk from what i've seen but that just means that the US dealers add a markup on the top. Plus look at how much stuff like golf R has gone up in the last few years - type r is a better car so why not charge same/ more?

 

[ash_rage]

Can you imagine the prices once they hit the 2nd hand market!

 

[Das]

Doesn't make sense spending millions on development and to only sell Hundreds instead of Thousands. Imagine how much the "special" edition will be when it appears. Cant even be worth the likes of Mugen developing anything for it.

 

[Kremmen]

Could it be that the global chip shortage is forcing Honda to use them on the models that sell thousands ?

 

[ash_rage]

They could be just saying it to drive up demand, anyway I've now managed to find a dealer who would take a deposit but I couldn't be guaranteed what colour I get. I just said no grey and no black.

 

[rob.e]

No, its not to drive up demand and its not chip shortage - they have to have an average economy figure across the range legally now and that means there is a limit to how many type r's they can sell.

Its sad, but not as sad as the knowledge that this is going to be the last ever type r. yes that is also going to have a strong influence on residuals, and not in a good way.

 

[rob.e]

CAFE emissions rules: "corporate average fuel economy". basically its rules that set average fuel economy targets across a manufacturer's range.

 

[ash_rage]

Well hopefully i get my hands on the last one.

 

[FencePlank43]

HONDA CONFIRMS PRICING FOR ALL-NEW CIVIC TYPE R

https://hondanews.eu/gb/en/cars/media/pressreleases/431987/honda-confirms-pricing-for-all-new-civic-type-r £47k...... Bargain!

www.civinfo.com

Honda has made it clear 11G CTR is going to be limited.

Partly to keep demand keen and pricing higher and also due to emissions across its product range.

The irony of course is that you can see from the link I attached referencing Honda's own press release, they are advertising the CTR with PCP!! 😂

 

[scaramanga]

No, its not to drive up demand and its not chip shortage - they have to have an average economy figure across the range legally now and that means there is a limit to how many type r's they can sell.

Its sad, but not as sad as the knowledge that this is going to be the last ever type r. yes that is also going to have a strong influence on residuals, and not in a good way.

and thats why aston martin done a pedal cycle
had to offset the high emissions of the cars

 

[PhilipFollop]

I heard from the main Honda dealership in the nearby 'big-city' that a total of seventy 11G Type R have been allocated for France. I asked when they started taking orders, and was told late in 2022. And then came the surprise comment that they had all been allocated to buyers by Jan this year. They were priced at approx 55k euros (£48.2k). Plus there's a CO2 emissions rate tax penalty for vehicles here exceeding 123 grams (g) of Co2 per kilometer. In the case of the 2022/23 11G Type R the CO2 emission rate is 186g/klm which relates to a tax penalty of 12,552 euros (£11k), bringing the total price to well over 67k euros (close to £59.2k). A crazy price, although I don't doubt that the s/h price will eventually soar due to it's phenomenal performance and rarity.

 

[Wilmo]

Nice (?) to see that it isn't just we Brits being stung by ecomentalists.

 

[Kremmen]

It does look like now is not the time to be buying new, if you can.