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I could activate abs at xxx mph with my Civics stock brakes, the issue came with repeated hard stops. Uprated pads/discs/fluids will often improve things but it can get to a point where you simply need a bigger brake setup to cope with the heat.
There's a dual carriage way I drive on that is broken up with a series of roundabouts, my diesel Civic was fine for the first roundabout, second was still okay but by the third the brake fade was horrendous. I had two options, drive slower or fit bigger brakes... I went bigger brakes.

I’d argue that if you’re getting brake fade on a public road, you’re driving too fast.

Dual Carriageway is 70mph limit.
 

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I’d argue that if you’re getting brake fade on a public road, you’re driving too fast.

Dual Carriageway is 70mph limit.

Also, no matter what speed you’re travelling at, if you can lock your brakes or engage ABS then your tyres aren’t good enough - your brakes can overpower your tyres so you need better tyres to be able to use all of your brakes.
 

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If the brakes can't lock the wheels they aren't up to the job. No matter how much grip they offer the tyres should always be the limiting factor. The 2.2 diesel is a heavy car and easily has the worst brakes of any car I've owned, come to think of it I've never driven any car/van with brakes as poor. I've some incredible roads on my doorstep and just some moderate driving would overwhelm the brakes, I put the Accord CU2 front setup on my car and the difference was beyond words.
 

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I'm not inclined to agree with locking brakes or ABS means that tyres are not up to the task, even in the dry.

A good hard stamp on even rubbish brakes should get a wheel lock or ABS, otherwise you have some serious issues.
 

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@fatwelshboy Having run the Tarox Strada pads in I'm actually not impressed! Have driven 800+ miles with them now and bedded them in early etc

The braking is about the same as OEM when cold and they really need some fairly big heat in them to start performing.

Once warm they're excellent, immediate sharp bite but off the boil they're just like the regular TRW ones I had on before.

Half tempted to try Yellowstuff all round...
 

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@Negativvv I drive a Golf but I'm really happy with mine. They have a bit more bite from cold, than stock pads, and get better and better with heat. I like they don't bite too hard when cold as I've driven cars with performance pads that are really snatchy and not nice to drive in traffic/around town.
 

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Yeah brakes are in the eye of the beholder/user.

I'd much rather something had instant cold bite. I love the Ferodo DS Performance pads in my other car as they're there instantly with a sharp bite.

Whereas the Tarox are a bit OEM like until they're stood on. Can't fault their warmed up performance.

Have looked at some YT reviews of Yellowstuff and apparently they're the same, fairly OEM performance from cold and needs warming up.

I might get rear Yellowstuff pads to see if that makes any difference.
 

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Was worth the money putting them on the rears. It's transformed the pedal to what I deem to be good. No dead travel and a good firm bite on cold.

I don't know why it's not talked about more, that's the second car I've put performance pads on the rear which has hugely improved braking....
 
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