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Double DIN touchscreen on the cheap!

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I had a few issues searching for guides for install myself, whilst it's on here I'll share my experience as it seems to be a pretty commonly asked question here.

Upgraded the stereo in my car for under £150 although I did get slightly lucky.

Firstly you'll need a Connects2 kit along with the fascia.

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That's everything it should come with, or at least everything that's needed to get it to work. I was lucky enough to snare one 2nd hand for half the price of how much they retail for on eBay but if you plan to do the same make sure ALL the wiring is there as it won't work without everything there other than the blue/black cable which is for the FM radio. All the other stuff is non negotiable.

For the headunit I chose a refurbished Atoto F7 7 inch touch screen. It uses a Linux interface and is designed to use Android Auto/Apple Carplay so it'll be as good as your phone. My one cost me £90 but they retail brand new for about £150+, a bit more for wireless Android Auto/Apple Carplay but that's irrelevant to me as I plug in when I drive to charge the phone. Android based units cost more because they need more firepower under the bonnet, I've read 4gb RAM preferably otherwise they can chug also with Android there's more to go wrong than a simple Linux interface. I also only plan to use the stereo for USB MP3 or internet radio which doesn't need DAB or anything else. I never use FM and my car's antenna seemed to stop receiving awhile back anyway.


That video is by far the best guide. Do listen to him and get the plastic trim removers, I've had mine for ages and they come in handy for interior trim work. A cloth covered screw driver just isn't as cool...

You'll need to hack saw the bottom left corner of the frame in the dashboard. It's on a guide elsewhere recently on here. Otherwise any double din stereo will not fit, no biggie tho as it's only made of thin wood like material, pliers might even rip it out.

The Connects2 Fascia is frankly meh quality, it didn't really fit my Atoto unit too well but it's secure enough albeit with plastic instead of metal frames.

READ THIS BIT. When connecting everything. Connect the Connects2 black box to it's feedback loop thing, the loom in the top left of my pic. Then connect the ISO B power lead to the stereo then Connects2 and everything else. Otherwise the centre clock display won't work and won't retain power when you turn the engine off. Don't use ISO A... The ISO issue applies if you've got an ATOTO unit like mine.

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Once all connected up it looks not bad.

The sound quality is acceptable too, to the point where I probably won't change it. There's plenty of talk about the OEM speakers being rubbish but it seemed to be more the standard head unit rather than speaker quality.

My steering wheel buttons don't appear to work with the stereo but I can't be bothered to splice wires or experiment. I'm too used to touching the stereo itself anyway.

Hope that helps!
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Looks really good and it is something I want to do myself.

I have some questions regarding the unit.

Have you noticed that the Atoto unit heats up too much? Read some complaints about it on Amazon comments.

Is this proper Android Auto unit, or is it only mirroring the smartphone screen? I've noticed that cheaper Pioneer units only do mirroring.

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It's full on Android Auto and not just screen mirroring. It has got that feature but it's a bit of a gimmick.

There's a cheap Pioneer and Kenwood unit that only mirrors, I believe they're exactly the same as one other except for the badge.

So far the Atoto unit is working fine but I took a bit of a risk on a refurbished unit. Most indications are they're quite a good brand, certainly a step up from the unbranded Chinese stuff out there. Even my unit has a 6 month warranty on purchase.

It boots up ok, in about 10s or so. If you plug your phone in then it'll instantly hook up to where you last left off so it'll go back to your MP3/radio without pressing any additional buttons.
Okay, I finally did this, after 2.5 month of preparation, finding the parts and reading all tutorials. So first to say, it's not the easiest thing because there are a lot of small things to bear in mind.

For the left hand drive, and for whatever reason, the Connects2 kit was almost 2x more expensive everywhere I checked. For ex., it was 250 Euros in my local car audio shop. There was a listing on Amazon for around 80 Euros, but after 10 days all the stock was gone. After weeks of searching, I finally found this one: https://caraudiocenter.se/product/installations-kit-honda-civic-kombi-06-lhd-ctkhd01l/ 1200 SEK (104 Euros). Had some luck because my sister lives in Sweden so she shipped it to Croatia. They might have International shipping available.

For the head unit I went the similar way as OP. There is an eBay reseller for Atoto in Germany (Atoto De) who sells second hand units. You can even place "best offer" bid. Ended up with Atoto F7 WE (wireless edition for Android Auto and Car Play) for 130€. Package arrived in 5 work days and the only thing missing was screen protector. There wasn't a single scratch anywhere on the unit and it seemed new to me.

First mistake I made was during the patch lead crimping. After consulting to the manuals, I took the ISO A harness out of the box without looking and started crimping splice connectors. Connected KEY 1 to steering wheel key#(+), KEY 2 to steering wheel key(+), GND to swc-gnd, and blue wire from antenna adapter to power antenna.

Plastic removal tools are really handy for the trims, there are sets for around 20€ (purchased mine when had boot leaking issue). Followed the Youtube video from this thread, center console removal was relatively easy. There are 4 screws and also 2 plastic pins (1 for each side, or so I thought). Don't use the plastic removal tool here, you should use a screwdriver to push the pin inside and then they're easy to remove.

Then I made a second mistake. Started removing center console plastic below the OEM unit but it didn't budge from one side. Clips right below the OEM unit were relased, but the left part of the trim was still in place. It appears there's a 3rd plastic pin just next to the accelerator pedal. The triangle bit above the stereo demands a lot of patience to remove without breaking any clips.

Supplied plastic fascia isn't the best, it's thinner than original and when unit is assembled, appears very flimsy/wobbly. Plastic side brackets also don't give too much confidence. Process of removing the air vents from the OEM stereo is not straightforward. One of the forum members posted really neat trick few years ago - wooden "kebab" sticks (skewers?). You need 2 for each clip (8 total), once lifted, it goes out without a problem. Metal fasteners/clips are also pain to remove and need "heavy" lifting from both side with couple of screwdrivers.

When connecting cables, patch lead (one with the steering controls) goes into the black box first, then the other end of this cable to the stereo. Then the bigger harness from the kit goes to the other side of the black box. After that you need to connect ISO plugs, big cube connectors with four rows of pins one to another. In the end you should connect grey and green cables.

AC screen worked immediately after the ignition key. Unit booted up, the steering wheel controls in the unit settings worked fine. You need to bind the steering wheel controls to unit functions since it's not out of the box for Atoto. Set the time both on AC screen and the unit, saved some radio stations. Wireless Android Auto was fine, but wired connection didn't work. Turned off the ignition keys thinking everything is fine and I started messing with the USB extension and arm rest console. Turned the ignition back and noticed the time was out of sync - AC display was OK, but not the unit. It started where it left off. Also button mappings for the steering controls were gone and so were the stations. Then it hit me that I might used the wrong cable after all.

Disassembled everything, connected cables to ISO B harness and tested again. Everything worked, but this time no steering wheel control. AC screen still works, you can set time with buttons, but there is no input in the head unit settings. It seems there are 3 more ways you can connect the patch lead to Chinese brand units. So i just swapped KEY 1 to steering wheel(+) and KEY 2 to steering wheel#(+). Also ditched the splice connectors while figuring this out - WAGO clamps are great for this. To reset the black box, leave it 5 minutes disconnected (but 30 seconds probably works fine). Connects2 has great support service, they are really fast and responsive and their very first suggestion worked.

Hoped it was only on the right hand drive cars, but the fascia doesn't go all the way through on left hand side either, need to remove half a centimeter of plastic dashboard inside the bottom right part. There are no screws at the bottom like on the OEM unit, so center console removal probably won't be necessary in the future to pull the unit out. To my disappointment, USB extension cable is not long enough to be routed to the arm rest cubby. Instead I put it in the small compartment beneath the head unit, together with wireless antenna. Not the ideal, but it'll do.

The last hardware issue - wired Android Auto didn't work. Tried 3 different cables, but in they were all off brand. Purchased genuine Huawei and Samsung USB-A to USB-C cables and they work perfectly. The only software issue I discovered is low navigation voice for Waze and Maps. While FM radio or Deezer is on, I can't hear it. The sound goes lower for the music, but nothing can be heard regarding navigation. Didn't solve this one yet.

The head unit is really good BTW, screen is bright enough, touchscreen and UI responsive, didn't notice any issues so far, except the navigation voice volume. And there is also the price.

Thanks OP once again for the idea
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So you got the steering wheel controls to work?

I'll have to read what you did and see if I can figure it out.

The AC screen fades randomly on mine but always comes back on again after awhile, it's also very dim but that might just be due to the unit being old...

I'd say the Atoto F7 is a great unit, it has most of the needed features and is fine enough with it's screen visibility and amp to the speakers.
The AC screen fades randomly on mine but always comes back on again after awhile, it's also very dim but that might just be due to the unit being old...
get your soldering hat on.
I did it and it is an easy but tedious job to sort 50 odd pins.
So you got the steering wheel controls to work?

I'll have to read what you did and see if I can figure it out.

The AC screen fades randomly on mine but always comes back on again after awhile, it's also very dim but that might just be due to the unit being old...

I'd say the Atoto F7 is a great unit, it has most of the needed features and is fine enough with it's screen visibility and amp to the speakers.
Yeah, it's pretty straight forward. There are three wires on the patch lead, just connect the key 1 and key 2 to steering wheel(+) and steering wheel#(+) respectively (on ISO harness). You can also connect the FM radio blue wire from antenna adapter to power antenna on the ISO harness (blie wire). This will feed the amplified antenna and you should get reception. For connecting I used WAGO clamps instead of splice connectors. Bear in mind you'll have to disconnect everything for 5 minutes in order for black box to reset itself. After that it is matter of going to Settings and bind the buttons.

As Wilmo said, you need to resolder/reflow the joints on the AC screen itself. Mine was loosing characters so my local electrician fixed it in appx. 30 minutes. He did complain on some kind of coating that solder joints were covered in.

Do you have problems with Waze or Maps voice volume on your Atoto?

EDIT: Figured out the voice volume, apparently it's separated from the rest of the system. When navigation starts talking, you should hit Vol+ button. It is weird though, I have turned to 90% to hear it normally, seems like some kind of bug in AA.

Today I have also moved the WiFi antenna from centre console cubby and left only USB extension there. There is just enough space to postion the antenna in dash perforation below the triangle.panel. I also removed 2 metal clips from triangle panel that go just below the AC screen. This makes removal far more easier now. Also, to remove the unit, there's no longer need to remove centre console and arm rest, just the triangle panel on top and 3 screws below.

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Ah thanks, I'll make a note in case I get time to tinker...

And yes, the sat nav volume is it's own setting which I don't believe is in the menus anywhere. I've uploaded a nice Honda wallpaper to the screen so it really looks OEM.

get your soldering hat on.
I did it and it is an easy but tedious job to sort 50 odd pins.
I've already done it once but it seems to have degraded a bit since, probably because the last time I soldered (badly) prior to then was a teenager in school well over 25 or so years ago :ROFLMAO:
I left school 40 years ago in 1983!! Bloody hell, now I feel old! 😭😭😭
I left in 1978 after A levels, does that make me ancient?
I'm not even young anymore!! There's people who are adults at work who I could comfortably be their father in terms of age I was when they were born...
And yes, the sat nav volume is it's own setting which I don't believe is in the menus anywhere. I've uploaded a nice Honda wallpaper to the screen so it really looks OEM.
Apparently there is an option to change the boot logo as well. You need to change date to 01/08/2008 01:08 (24 hour) to reveal the setting ,(this is 8th of January). I haven't tried it yet though.

The major issue I discovered with the unit after couple of days is subpar FM radio reception. I can tune in to the all of the channels and they sound fine when stationary. But as soon as I start driving, the sound is lowered/compressed every few seconds, it's loosing high and mid frequencies, then gets back. This only happens with the FM radio, othrewise is fine. It's not the usual static and crackling noise and didn't experience this behavior on OEM unit.

Plan to check out antenna grounds in 5th door, but I think cleaning the contacts won't help much.

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I left in 1978 after A levels, does that make me ancient?
Yep! 😛😛😛
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