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As many of you have no doubt seen, I've recently sold my beloved FK3 :cry: and acquired a completely different beast...

Welcome to my Lexus GS 450H SE



The Civic had been a dependable and enjoyable car but I've long fancied a big petrol. Looking around I wasn't impressed with any of the typical Germanic options (reliability) so after some debate we decided to give a Lexus go.

This hybrid GS has 341bhp combined output (3.0 litre v6 and electric motor) which isn't too shabby for a such big car. For the traffic light GP's the 0-62mph is 5.9 seconds, apparently. Some sites even list 5.2's :eek: The electric motor alone pushes out 147kW and 275Nm.

Unsurprisingly the petrol v6 is smooth and quiet, just as you'd imagine a Lexus to be. It don't half sound nice when you first start it up in a morning, burble, burble

My tweaked FK3 was fairly rapid and when it took off you knew about it - noise/rev's and a direct roller skate feel on coil-overs. The Lexus is faster but goes about it in a completely different manner, it's more refined and to a degree it disconnects you from the speed.

After reading reviews I was skeptical about the E-CVT gearbox but the Lexus unit is generally regarded as the best of them. In a lesser powered car I think the journo's might have a point but with the extra power from the v6 and electric motor, this box is great. I've always liked a gear stick in my cars but an auto seems to suit the GS nicely. It's a bit weird being flung down the road without any gear changes tho, but it's also addictive.

Coasting along on battery power through villages, at the legal limit is great. Drifting along on battery power in a traffic jam/around town is :cool: too. The battery is recharged when you lift off and brake, a neat and hassle free solution. The 'hybrid' label isn't your typical fuel saving choice here tho, instead it's more performance orientated.

An energy monitor on the infotainment screen shows you were the power is coming from/going to #geek



The 450H has a Power button which sharpens the throttle response and if you boot it in this mode then the engine growl is great...gotta love a 'v'. I guess the electric motor kicks in harder in this setting as low down torque increases.

The suspension can be stiffened up (a bit) via it's own Suspension button, unlike the new TypeR ;)

On 18" rims I was worried the ride would be poor but it works pretty well with just the right balance of comfort and handling on the wishbone front and multi-link rear axle.

There are plenty of toys in this middle spec 'SE' model with full leather interior, heated front seats, electric adjustable front seats, seat memory, dual A/C, satnav, Bluetooth, 6-DVD changer, voice commands, keyless entry, push button starter (yay), electronic rear sunshade (really), parking sensors front/rear, reversing camera, etc, etc. There aren't as many storage bins as the Civic or magic rear seats :( but I do like that the lesser buttons (mirror adjust/etc) are hidden away.

I'm not normally that fussed about music in my cars but this Mark Levinson, 14 speaker, surround sound setup is pretty good.

I'm learning to live without the digital speedo and I've also lost a rev counter...someone thought a kW meter would be a good replacement :facepalm: Probably because the v6 switches off so often, I guess.

The GS boot is tiny compared to a class leading Civic! The GS's front portion is taken up by battery's in this 3rd gen, which they've changed in the latest model.

I just had a good long drive (commute) and been tootling around locally...overall I'm impressed.



To Do List (there always is one, right)
  • The satnav version is 2007/08, sorting that out now - done, now running 2016/17 for UK and most of Europe
  • Drivers floor Matt worn thru - done, fitted new mats
  • Install dashcam, I ordered the wrong piggy back fuse :( - done, F700 front/rear camera's in place
  • Rear exhaust split at Y for rear boxes, OS muffler holed, booked in at Tony Banks, Leeds - done, new stainless mid and rear sections installed. Rear mufflers are straight thru for a nice little burble
  • OSF TPMS valve has a slow leak - slowed it, still leaking? - done, new tyres all round
  • Slightly milky headlights - done, quick polish
  • Paintwork needs sorting out
  • Paint calipers - done
  • Replace disks/pads - done
  • Underseal?
 

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Nice 'sleeper' there. I take it a hybrid Jazz was'nt an option then ?
 

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Nice 'sleeper' there. I take it a hybrid Jazz was'nt an option then ?
You're spot on re: 'sleeper', a little like my FK3 was.

Haha, err no. The 9th gen 1.8 was considered but as you can see, it didn't win.
 

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Fair do's!
 

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Very nice car by the look of it. I'm seriously thinking of a big hybrid next (I really want a Tesla Model S but can't afford the one I test drove - 75D). Can I be cheeky and ask what you paid for it (roughly speaking)?
 

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Very nice car by the look of it. I'm seriously thinking of a big hybrid next (I really want a Tesla Model S but can't afford the one I test drove - 75D). Can I be cheeky and ask what you paid for it (roughly speaking)?
Thanks, it wasn't as expensive as a Tesla it goes further too :D

Surprisingly I've seen quite a few Tesla's recently, odd as they ain't cheap.
 

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Very nice indeed!

Does the hybrid technology result in a decent MPG?
Ta, I've not done a tank to tank calculation yet but if the on board meter is anything to go by then I consistently got 40mpg+ on a 200 mile round trip.

As usual, town work brings down the consumption.

It's book rating is 36mpg average, not bad for the type of car.

As a comparison the v8 it replaced averaged 26mpg, both of comparable performance.
 

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I like it! I must say I'm tempted either a bit of luxury next time...

Do the batteries cost of replacement worry you at all?

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I like it! I must say I'm tempted either a bit of luxury next time...?
Go for it!

Do the batteries cost of replacement worry you at all?
Good question - if you take a Hybrid battery issue to a Lexus dealer, then it seems they want to replace the whole battery...at approx £3k! Kinda worrying.

However being a Lexus, issues aren't common (touch wood) and there are specialists who can repair a complete pack for around £800.

I've also read several How To's for DIY repairs for pennies (by comparison).

A very good option with the Lexus is that if you have a Hybrid vehicle serviced at a dealer, then they will check/warranty the Hybrid system for another 12 months. This continues after the normal new car warranty expires, up to 10 years I believe. Actually if you don't get the car serviced at the dealer, then you can still pay for annual Hybrid check/warranty at something like £70pa.

Also don't forget that Toyota have been producing Hybrids longer than most.

All of these has eased my concerns. Fingers crossed.
 

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Go for it!



Good question - if you take a Hybrid battery issue to a Lexus dealer, then it seems they want to replace the whole battery...at approx £3k! Kinda worrying.

However being a Lexus, issues aren't common (touch wood) and there are specialists who can repair a complete pack for around £800.

I've also read several How To's for DIY repairs for a fraction of a dealer repair.

A very good option with the Lexus is that if you have a Hybrid vehicle serviced at a dealer, then they will check/warranty the Hybrid system for another 12 months. This continues after the normal new car warranty expires, up to 10 years I believe. Actually if you don't get the car serviced at the dealer, then you can still pay for annual Hybrid check/warranty at something like £70pa.

Also don't forget that Toyota have been producing Hybrids longer than most.

All of these has eased my concerns.
Ah that would put my mind at rest a bit. £70pa seems very reasonable. As I do like to service my own cars.

And it's good that there's a bit of an Internet following for these lexus... diy fixes are always a winner!

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However being a Lexus, issues aren't common (touch wood) and there are specialists who can repair a complete pack for around £800.
Won't have to reach too far if you opted for the wood interior :laugh2:

I had a nosey around but regret not sitting in it, like a good Lexus
 
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Haha, good one.

Alas the wooden interior is the pretty much the norm for this age/model.
 

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Very nice motor Sir there ! My mate had a GS300 literally one of the comfiest cars I have been in, and a nice bit of power on tap, and yours has even more power so I'm sure it will be a nice little sleeper like people mentioned ! Awesome build quality and the finish on these cars is second to none ! The car looks stunning, bring on the better weather so you can enjoy in the sunshine !
 

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Ta pal, good to hear that others find the GS comfy.

I almost went for the petrol version but performance won the day.
 
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