[Fonzey]

Hello guys/girls,
My FN2 has just this week started developing the 'creaking whilst cold' rear suspension. My CTS did this, and was fixed under warrenty - but since my newer CTR is doing the same, I'm guessing this is just an inevitable fault eventually.

I believe they replaced the rear shocks on my CTS to resolve this, but I guess that had I kept the car long enough - the issue would have returned, potentially outside of warranty!

For this reason, I'm wondering whether to bother booking my CTR into the dealer with the fault - instead opting for an aftermarket option. It seems like the vast majority go for an Eibach setup, but is it usual to replace both springs and shocks or just the springs alone?

Replacing just the springs is unlikely to solve my problem I guess - so no point in doing that.

Couple of specific questions:

What ££ can I expect to spend for aftermarket springs and shocks including fitting and FRS setup?

Do people have scrubbing/rubbing issues after these springs have settled? I've lowered my old cars before and they quite frankly ruin the ride and longevity of the suspension/tyres. Something I'm not willing to do on a CTR as I feel the stock suspension setup is actually very good.

What's the minimum I can lower my car with Eibachs? I actually take my car fishing, so really don't want to go any lower if possible - but 10-15mm is acceptable I guess

Thanks guys/girls - comments much appreciated.

 

[DPG87]

I have abp/eibach springs, lowers by 30mm, no rubbing issues at all, ride is still hard but a lot less crashy than oem! Think the springs are around 170-180 IIRC, eibach also do 15mm lowering springs, labour and FRS cost will depend on where you go for it mate, FRS is a superb mod mate makes a HUGE difference

 

[Fonzey]

Thanks DPG. Do you have aftermarket shocks with those 30mm springs?

If you're not rubbing with 30mm, 15mm will be fine when accounting for some fishing gear in the boot

 

[DPG87]

Nah just the springs mate, changing for coilovers next year but they're a lot more expensive!

Yeh you won't experience any issues with the 15mm springs!

 

[Fonzey]

Excellent, Cheers.

I've discovered then that I want 15mm springs, and that FRS will be money well spent... but I'm still left with a pair of creaky squeeky shocks

 

[Staffs Deltic]

Excellent, Cheers.

I've discovered then that I want 15mm springs, and that FRS will be money well spent... but I'm still left with a pair of creaky squeeky shocks

Handling wise one of the best mods you can do. Springs make the car feel settled and the FRS makes the car feel like it is running on rails. As for the creaky dampers - turn up your stereo.

 

[DPG87]

Why not get the shocks replaced under warranty then get the springs done?

 

[SumoPower]

There's a couple of options avaliable if you want to replace the lot,I have HKS Hipermax full coilovers on mine which are about a million point adjustable and awesome but cost in the region of £1800 Inc vat..BC or Tein also have the full shebang avaliable

 

[Fonzey]

Why not get the shocks replaced under warranty then get the springs done?

I think this'll be my course of action, I'm just concerned that in another ~15k miles I'll be facing the same squeeks and groans on a morning. Was hoping an all inclusive suspension upgrade would fix me for good.

cost in the region of £1800 Inc vat

:-|

About that warranty...

 

[higham]

if your changing parts who cares about warrenty? like if you change to hks coilovers and then your ac stop's working honda will still fix it for you!

 

[fat4y]

I had XYZ coilovers ages ago..they were cool..no rubbing at all and i took it to track too!can go as low as you want!!

They are £550

 

[gadgetman68]

... but I'm still left with a pair of creaky squeeky shocks

If the creaking is from cold and just for the first couple of corners I seriously wouldn't worry about it as they all do it ........ if it creaks when warm or for longer periods get it to the dealers it see if they will change them.

 

[Fonzey]

If the creaking is from cold and just for the first couple of corners I seriously wouldn't worry about it as they all do it ........ if it creaks when warm or for longer periods get it to the dealers it see if they will change them.

You've got no idea how much stuff like that annoys me. I pride myself on pulling over in a layby and identifying/fixing any squeeks or rattles that I discover... which has been muchos fun in a CTR

if your changing parts who cares about warrenty? like if you change to hks coilovers and then your ac stop's working honda will still fix it for you!

That wasn't really my point... my point was that I was never going to spend 1800 on suspension, I'd rather just have the dealer sort out my OEM suspension on warranty!

I had XYZ coilovers ages ago..they were cool..no rubbing at all and i took it to track too!can go as low as you want!!

They are £550

That's more what I'd expect to pay for coilovers!

I think to be honest that I'll book into the dealers, get it sorted and then save up for either coilovers or some aftermarket shocks to match the eibach springs. I assumed a full eibach kit would be readily available, but I guess not!

 

[Fonzey]

Booked in with Honda on Saturday 7th January. The chap who I emailed explained that this issue is well known at Honda, several repair bulletins have failed to cure the root cause.

The latest bulletin recommends replacing the shock fluid, and so far seems to be succesful. They're going to perform the work for me, then it'll just be a case of waiting to see if the fault returns.

 

[gadgetman68]

Fingers crossed

 

[Dave84]

If your replacing the shocks and want good quality coilovers go for Kw suspension as these are designed for our european roads. I'm not sure how the XYZ would be on our crap roads and how long they would last for that price