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Just had a look at the specs for the new 2012 car. It seems that heated front seats are only in the EX model with leather seats.

Do you think it will be possible to get it as an extra on the Sport ES model?

I currently have it on my leased 2009 1.8 Sport and it would be a shame to not have it on the new car that I'm looking to replace the old one with :(
 

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DOnt forget the specs you have seen are for the UK car, i'd expect the other Euro nations to be different
 

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I'd really like to get excited on the new civic, it's a grower, undoubtly. But it misses too many things. Seems so strange that Honda, instead of cultivating its niche (as would be profitable these days) has gone for a wash-down of the model. Toyotas are more interesting at this point, the new Prius C, the Chevy Volt... Other price segments for sure, but Civic MY 2012 lacks innovation. No autoparking too, even the Fiesta will have it next year.
 

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DOnt forget the specs you have seen are for the UK car, i'd expect the other Euro nations to be different
Absolutely - for example - in Scandinavia, all 8th. Gen. Civics (apart from some CTRs) came with heated front seats, HIDs, set of Winter Alloys and Tyres, etc. ...
 

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In the meantime it has been confirmed the 1.8 Sport will have heated front seats so that's good news :)
 

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No autoparking too, even the Fiesta will have it next year.
Yes I'm thinking that's a notable miss as well.

The new Focus according to the adverts auto parks, reads road signs and even closes its grill vents to save fuel when cooling isn't needed. Whereas the latter sounds like a gimmick and just something more to go wrong to me I can see some value in some kind of warning assist on some crucial signs and definitely the value of autoparking - especially in a car with limited rear visibility, is unquestionable.
 

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You can also buy a 17k Focus these days with DAB as standard - and that's before the usual Ford discount...
 

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funny thing is that, when in the days I was getting a volvo as a company car, the dealer wanted a lot of extra $ for heated seats, webasto and on-board computer. just one month later I've discovered taht all that stuff was already in the car - ready to be activated. Which I did for a lot less $ ;-)
 

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Yes I'm thinking that's a notable miss as well.

The new Focus according to the adverts auto parks, reads road signs and even closes its grill vents to save fuel when cooling isn't needed. Whereas the latter sounds like a gimmick and just something more to go wrong to me I can see some value in some kind of warning assist on some crucial signs and definitely the value of autoparking - especially in a car with limited rear visibility, is unquestionable.

The new Civic Does the latter.

Auto parking?? - are you serious? do you know how it works? they system needs to find a space 1.5-2m longer than your car to park in. if you can't park your car in a space that much longer than your car then you shouldnt have a licence.
Reads Road signs?? - this gets better. You need a car to read signs that you should be on the look out for? sheesh, talk about dangerous.
 

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I went on a press demo day on the new focus last year and some of the new safety gear is impressive, but potentially dangerous should you get used to the focus and get in a Civic.

Autopark, far from being a gimmick was actually very useful. I tried it out in the prescribed parking gap and then kept getting out and making the gap smaller and smaller. The system coped very well IMO and I hope that companies other than Ford start to develop their own versions of it.

Auto brake, which I believe is in the new civic, was very good. Albeit a bit unsettling and I'd be interested to see how it works with a pedestrian stepping out rather than a stationary car.

The sign recognition was fun, it works off the front camera recognising speed signs and mirroring them to the dashboard. As the distance from the last recognised sign increases the dashboard sign gradually dims. As has been said you should be out looking yourself but it's almost a get out of jail free card should there be inadequate signs and plod stops you. Certainly you've got proof of the last speed sign passed.

Ford have done what Apple did with the iPod and others in that they have built in a variety of sensors into the car and then let their software development team loose and create various apps that do different things with the inputs.
 

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No autoparking too, even the Fiesta will have it next year.
Who the hell wants autoparking? It would be the last thing I'd want on a new car. Too many gimmicks and so called driver aids on new cars nowadays.

If you can't park, don't drive is what I say. Mind you in my experience, that would mean an immediate reduction of at least a quarter of current drivers!

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Yes I'm thinking that's a notable miss as well.

The new Focus according to the adverts auto parks, reads road signs and even closes its grill vents to save fuel when cooling isn't needed. Whereas the latter sounds like a gimmick and just something more to go wrong to me I can see some value in some kind of warning assist on some crucial signs and definitely the value of autoparking - especially in a car with limited rear visibility, is unquestionable.
I have the new Focus with 'Park Assist' - in no way is it Autoparking. It basically steers the car for you, the driver still has to maintain control of gearchanging, accelerating and braking. It's something you will use once and never again !!

As for the grill vents, I have a 1.6TDCI Stop/Start and the fuel economy is Sheeite compared to the Civic, regardless of open/closed vents and driving like a granny.
 
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