hello everyone i am the terminator i am new to civinfo its a brilliant site full of infomation. i have had my red 1.8 five door civic 5 months and apart from the left hand side passengers door handle becomming stiff and a small creeking noise at the top of the windscreen everything has been fine and it is a joy to drive. now it has run in it is quite quick. i used to own a saab 9-5 2.3 low presure turbo 175 bhp auto. the trouble with that was it was so thirsty and i coudnt leave the sport mode button alone which made it use more fuel. the civic is so much better on fuel and of course cheaper insurance. as a kid i always wanted a concept car and now i have one [smilie=happyspin.g:happy driving everyone speak later.