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This is not intended as a 'how fast' thread! And I am talking about normal day to day driving in 30 or 40 mph zones. Its just that I am still getting used to driving my wifes new Type R smoothly :). Although I drive other manual gearbox cars, the Type R does seem a bit different to the average car.

Here's what I have noticed -

Normally I would change gears very quickly in other cars, but I find myself adopting a more deliberate (and therefore slightly slower) gearchange in the Type R.

Also, 1st and 2nd gears seem very low and seem to provide lots of engine braking. So to drive smoothly, I find myself shifting up to third gear very quickly.

Then the clutch - the biting point seems very low to the floor and also very short in terms of travel, so I find myself being very slow and gentle with the clutch.

The car seem comfortable above 1500 revs, but needs around 3000 revs to provide a reasonable amount of torque. Sixth gear is OK at 30 mph on the flat, but downshifts are required for any incline.

So, I guess, for that smooth drive locally, I have adjusted my overall driving style to a slower, more deliberate use of the gearbox, clutch and engine. Obviously decent acceleration does require a bit of VTEC ;)

Anyway, as I have noticed the difference, I thought that I would share it. What is your experience?
 

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Nothing quite like labouring an engine to ruin it eh? :lol:

4th is fine upto about 45mph for normal driving.
Hmmm............

So I am on an empty straight and level road where the speed limit for the next mile is 30mph and I am doing 30mph, so shift up to sixth to reduce noise and improve fuel comsumption. How is that labouring an engine please? :confused:
 

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Hmmm............

So I am on an empty straight and level road where the speed limit for the next mile is 30mph and I am doing 30mph, so shift up to sixth to reduce noise and improve fuel comsumption. How is that labouring an engine please? :confused:
Because the revs will be too low and put the strain on the engine, it's as bad a driving around on the redline.

Basic driving knowledge and it's probably even in the manual.
 

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Because the revs will be too low and put the strain on the engine, it's as bad a driving around on the redline.

Basic driving knowledge and it's probably even in the manual.
Are you claiming that driving at a set speed at 1500 revs on a level road will damage a car engine? I dont agree and wonder why you say it. Acceleration in sixth at the speed would strain the engine and I would never do that (as I said in my post above). ;)

Or is this something specific to the Type R?
 

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A couple of Honda specialist mechs I know, say that the K20's thrive on being worked (not to be confused with 'thrashed'). Don't be stranger to high revs, she sounds beautiful when she screams as well. ;)
 

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The salesman i bought my car from told me the advantage of having a 6th gear was for cruising around at 30 mph to save fuel!!
Salesmen very rarely have any technical knowledge of what there selling. You'll probably use more fuel in 6th at 30 as the revs will be so low. I find mine does best reving at around 3.5k rpm.
 

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Salesmen very rarely have any technical knowledge of what there selling. You'll probably use more fuel in 6th at 30 as the revs will be so low. I find mine does best reving at around 3.5k rpm.
Agreed
 

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Theres only one way to drive a manual car really, irrespective of the marque - which is shift up at the correct intervals, I wouldn't personally labour the engine by driving in an overly high gear for consumption purposes - In my CTR I probably do 5th for 35-40ish, but that's invariably when the tank has about less than 10miles left in it.

It's better for the engine to keep in sync with the correct gear. The Type-R's engine is performance orientated so keeping the engine healthy is of greater importance to me than the economy - although I can understand why one would try to manage economy in such a vehichle...

In buying one you've given into the darkside anyway - may aswell go the full distance and work her in every gear! :D

Afterall, there is only one way to drive a Type-R - "Like you stole it"
 

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basically, don't drop your rpms below 2.000 - it is bad for the engine. around the city i usually drive within 2.700-3.500 rpm range and, consequently tend to do lot more engine braking then in out-of-the-city drive.

and fuel saving in CTR is a bad joke, esp. if it means driving on 6th gear at 30 mph :)
 

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anyway the only realistic times when you could drive economically in the CTR is when you're in the 60-100 kph range. Under that range the K20 just sucks fuel like hell as the car is really not tuned towards that range so to achieve any economy requires exhausting, minute attention. Over that range you're hitting 3500-4000rpm even in 6th which is where you can feel VTEC come up lightly already.

As for low revs damaging the engine, yes it does some damage, because at very low RPMs the flywheel is not heavy enough to smooth vibrations with its inertia, especially under load. This is true for most petrol cars, and even more for sports cars where the flywheel is even lighter. That's also why Diesel engines have a very heavy flywheel (loads of vibrations and torque at low revs).
 
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