[Madcaddies]

Hey all

Make no mistake I absolutely love my FN2 Type R CW but lately I have had doubts about spending a whole lot of money on modding the car to make it handle and go even faster. I really think it lacks power on the straight compared to my old Leon Cupra from 2008. Yes I know it takes a completely different drivestyle that of a turbocharged car.

My girlfriend and I are also planning to start a family soon and maybe a car with only three doors will be a hasle with a little baby in and out of the backseat. Well I guess we can live with that but still something to consider I think.
What I would like to ask is what kind of a difference will I achieve and how much faster will the car be with the following mods and will the car with these mods in anyway be comparable to that of for example the Euro Mugen type R performance wise?

These will be my first mods:

KW variant 1 coilovers
Ferodo pads and some sort of grooved discs, do luck brake lines and some good brake fluid
Hondata flashpro
Etune
CPL intake
Tegiwa intake
How much of a difference will this make to the car handling and performance wise?

Later when I have more money saved up also:

RRC inlet manifold
TB
FD2 cams

Same question here as above?

I would really really like to hear from you and your experiences and if you have any links to videos or other data to back it up it will be much appreciated
I guess I am thinking of either keeping the FN2 and modding away on it or sell it next summer and buy a five door turbocharged hot hatch...

Thanks
Rune

 

[chrispee]

If you like the civic so much why not get a 5 door diesel and have it mapped or something? It wont be as razor sharpe as a type-r but my stock type S diesel doesnt hang about, and im sure mapped it would fly (190 bhp 300 lb-ft of torque is around the norm i think?)

 

[Madcaddies]

If you like the civic so much why not get a 5 door diesel and have it mapped or something? It wont be as razor sharpe as a type-r but my stock type S diesel doesnt hang about, and im sure mapped it would fly (190 bhp 300 lb-ft of torque is around the norm i think?)

Thanks for your fast reply. I will never be a fan of diesel powered cars so it is not an option for me It is a matter of principal

 

[culasse]

If you are looking for more HP/torque the best bang for the buck is a race manifold, Hondata flashpro with a custom tune, intake scoop.
This won`t break the bank. You might put some better brakes on. If you don`t track the car some better discs and pads is all it takes.

 

[coste1l]

i can verify that its actually easir to get into a 3dr civic and put a baby in a seat than it is a 5dr focus! put it to the test before making any changes! im 6ft 4 btw

 

[Madcaddies]

If you are looking for more HP/torque the best bang for the buck is a race manifold, Hondata flashpro with a custom tune, intake scoop.
This won`t break the bank. You might put some better brakes on. If you don`t track the car some better discs and pads is all it takes.

Cheers for your reply. Do you know or have any idea how much faster the car will be both from 0-100km/t and from 50-100km/t and so on?
What do you mean by intake scoop? Link please

 

[Madcaddies]

i can verify that its actually easir to get into a 3dr civic and put a baby in a seat than it is a 5dr focus! put it to the test before making any changes! im 6ft 4 btw

That sounds great Thank you very much. For sure the civic fn2 is the most spacious out of all of the hot hatches with 3 doors

 

[culasse]

Cheers for your reply. Do you know or have any idea how much faster the car will be both from 0-100km/t and from 50-100km/t and so on?
What do you mean by intake scoop? Link please

Never measured the acceleration times you requested but for me the midrange torque is more important for streetdriving and with my recommendations mentioned above your car will improve significantly.

As for the intake scoop, look at this link. Page 9. Forget about the Tegiwa airbox. The OEM airbox is just as good.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/tegiwa-imports/56587-tegiwa-air-intake-exhaust-manifold-pre-orders.html

Paul.

 

[DEZIBOY]

I think your not utilising your budget correctly. Coilovers are big bucks and the fitting too. You would be better off with Eibach's and a FRS. Already you have saved a good few hundred quid and then you've freed up more ££ for mods.

 

[gruesome-n]

I think your not utilising your budget correctly. Coilovers and big bucks and the fitting too. You would be better off with Eibach's and a FRS. Already you have saved a good few hundred quid and then you've freed up more ££ for mods.

+1..............

 

[J. Derek Riddell]

I think your not utilising your budget correctly. Coilovers and big bucks and the fitting too. You would be better off with Eibach's and a FRS. Already you have saved a good few hundred quid and then you've freed up more ££ for mods.

Absolutely - coilovers are pointless, unless you are thinking about a lot of track use - Eibach springs are the 'best bang for your buck' that there is - and FRS can't be beaten ...

Since you are now "wheels off", do the Brakes at the same time - upgraded disks and pads, stainless steel hoses and a high spec. fluid ...

So, first sort the suspension and brakes, then you are ready to get some performance \ BHP mods done ...

 

[MrPete]

Hey all

Make no mistake I absolutely love my FN2 Type R CW but lately I have had doubts about spending a whole lot of money..........................

My girlfriend and I are also planning to start a family soon and maybe a car with only three doors will be a hasle with a little baby in and out of the backseat. Well I guess we can live with that but still something to consider I think.

Rune

You seriously want to spend money to make the family car (?) faster and more uncomfortable when you have a baby coming? :facepalm:

Check your priorities.

I had two civics. a 3 & 5 dr. Baby went into the back of the 3 dr easier but they are small cars if you want to go anywhere loaded up with baby stuff, Buggy & Shopping etc.

Sold the 5 dr and bought a CRV. Still got the Type R tho.

 

[e-z]

i see... here we got more family-planning when tuning hints

 

[ash_rage]

What is the law like in Denmark regarding emissions?

Exhuast manifold (decat) yielded the best gains when my car was NA.

TODA Manifold was what I went with, but the Tegiwa and CPL manifolds will also give similiar results.

Good luck with your project.

 

[MrPete]

i see... here we got more family-planning when tuning hints

Yes you're right it makes more sense to blow a wad on tuning and find out later you need something else....like a second car.

 

[J. Derek Riddell]

Yes you're right it makes more sense to blow a wad on tuning and find out later you need something else....like a second car.

Yeehhh - tell me about it - "two times loser talking" ! ...

Before I got all 'responsible' and stuff, I just bought the cars I wanted and could afford - I sometimes had two at one time, "just because" ...

After my first 3 kids, with my first "ex" (I had reasonably decent Company cars most of that time) I went to Norway, where it all went sour ! ...

My second "ex" had 2 kids of her own, I had my 3 (I got custody) and we had 2 more between us ! - yes, 7 kids in total (you should have SEEN the size of the weekly shopping bill )- not to mention the dog, 6 cats, untold rabbits \ hamsters \ gerbils \ etc. - I had to buy a house with 8 bloody bedrooms (3 floors \ 300 m2), a decent garden, and a double garage ...

Anyway, I gradually 'devolved' to a 7-seater Peugeot 607 (family car, that I rarely saw) and a (deep intake of breath !) a Citroen ZX for me to use for going to work - unfortunately (fortunately ?) when this one buggered off, she took both cars - guess which idiot allowed her name on the bills of sale and registration papers, yet had the car loan in his ? :facepalm: ...

Blessing in disguise, really - I bought a new Civic, with 11 Km (7 Miles) delivery mileage - now I love my car again ...

@ the 'OP' - keep the FN2 - improve the brakes and suspension - save your pennies for the "people carrier" ...

 

[e-z]

Yes you're right it makes more sense to blow a wad on tuning and find out later you need something else....like a second car.

and cars wouldn't grumble...

 

[Madcaddies]

What is the law like in Denmark regarding emissions?

Exhuast manifold (decat) yielded the best gains when my car was NA.

TODA Manifold was what I went with, but the Tegiwa and CPL manifolds will also give similiar results.

Good luck with your project.

Very strict laws and MOT every two years. Would get a big fine if the police found out I was driving without catalic converter but the chance of them finding out is slim. Was thinking of getting a sport catalic converter welded on the exhaust.

 

[Madcaddies]

Never measured the acceleration times you requested but for me the midrange torque is more important for streetdriving and with my recommendations mentioned above your car will improve significantly.

As for the intake scoop, look at this link. Page 9. Forget about the Tegiwa airbox. The OEM airbox is just as good.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/tegiwa-imports/56587-tegiwa-air-intake-exhaust-manifold-pre-orders.html

Paul.

Thanks again. I will give them a closer look. It is midrange torque I am after so this sounds good

 

[Madcaddies]

Absolutely - coilovers are pointless, unless you are thinking about a lot of track use - Eibach springs are the 'best bang for your buck' that there is - and FRS can't be beaten ...

Since you are now "wheels off", do the Brakes at the same time - upgraded disks and pads, stainless steel hoses and a high spec. fluid ...

So, first sort the suspension and brakes, then you are ready to get some performance \ BHP mods done ...

Yes but how do I get the FRS with the eibach springs when I am from Denmark? It is a long way to the UK to get that fitted