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Hi, I own a 2010 model Honda Civic 1.4 with iShift. Recently, I experienced the following problem:
I went up a steep hill with the 2nd gear. The car shifted down to the 1st gear since the revs were not enough. Until here, it was OK, it was a clever choice to shift down, since the 2nd gear was not enough for the hill. However, after shifting down, is stayed on the 1st gear until the motor gets very high RPMs like 5000 - 6000. Only after I was on a flat piece of road, the gear was shifted high to 2nd gear again.

Is this a normal behavior? I think, that very high RPMs are not very good for the motor, and I would like to prevent this. Is there any way to do this except switching to manual gear mode? Any tips to do it just by adjusting the throttle?
 

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Hi, I own a 2010 model Honda Civic 1.4 with iShift. Recently, I experienced the following problem:
I went up a steep hill with the 2nd gear. The car shifted down to the 1st gear since the revs were not enough. Until here, it was OK, it was a clever choice to shift down, since the 2nd gear was not enough for the hill. However, after shifting down, is stayed on the 1st gear until the motor gets very high RPMs like 5000 - 6000. Only after I was on a flat piece of road, the gear was shifted high to 2nd gear again.

Is this a normal behavior? I think, that very high RPMs are not very good for the motor, and I would like to prevent this. Is there any way to do this except switching to manual gear mode? Any tips to do it just by adjusting the throttle?
Normal behaviour.

The I-shift is designed the calculate the correct gear dependant on engine load, engine speed, vehicle speed etc and chooses the best gear for the car. Revving to 6000rpm isn't a problem and will do no harm to the car. Having the car in the wrong gear such as 2nd on a really steep hill at a relatively low speed will put enormous strain on the engine as it will labour so much and this will cause more wear on the engine than letting it rev to 6000rpm and using it's band of power in a more suitable manner.

The Ishift is designed to select the best gear for the car in the current conditions. It won't harm the car.

Since having my I-shift I have learnt a lot about gear selection and where and when certain gears should be selected.
 

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............and just think Honda charged me £204 to reprogramme my idrive..........because in their opinion I'd been reving it too hard or leaving it in gear whilst stationary!!!

Great system.

Regards all

Juan
 

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The i-shift in auto mode will choose the gear to prevent labouring the engine in this case. It is also influenced by throttle position. Must have been quite a steep hill!
 

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normally neutral if waiting a while just brale for small amount of time..see after like 10 seconds the brake sort of softens ad pushing in a little bit with the weight that im holding it at..is that normal lol ?
 

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normally neutral if waiting a while just brale for small amount of time..see after like 10 seconds the brake sort of softens ad pushing in a little bit with the weight that im holding it at..is that normal lol ?
I assume by soften you mean the pedal starts moving after you have stopped and you are pushing with the same or less force than before? That is a sign the brake master cylinder is wearing out and is leaking a little.
 

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............and just think Honda charged me £204 to reprogramme my idrive..........because in their opinion I'd been reving it too hard or leaving it in gear whilst stationary!!!

Great system.

Regards all

Juan
YOU bought it after YOU test drove it.
If you hated how the system worked why the hell did you buy it?


We all know you have had your problems but plenty others, including myself, have got on fine with it and not had a single problem.
 

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normally neutral if waiting a while just brale for small amount of time..see after like 10 seconds the brake sort of softens ad pushing in a little bit with the weight that im holding it at..is that normal lol ?
I think this may be the 'hill start assist' kicking in. After about 10 secs the car apply's the brake itself so that when you go to move off the car doesn't roll back when you take your foot off the brake and on to the accelerator.

It'll apply the brakes with a certain amount of force. If you have been holding the car yourself with a little bit less force it will give the feeling that the peddle has moved or gone a little soft.
 

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YOU bought it after YOU test drove it.
If you hated how the system worked why the hell did you buy it?


We all know you have had your problems but plenty others, including myself, have got on fine with it and not had a single problem.

The test drive involved no ramps in car parks, no reversing up gradients, no reversing on a freezing winters morning, no roundabouts entered at a 3 mph crawl.........do you want me to go on.

The more I used the car the more I realised what a naff system it was.

The final straw was when it needed reprogramming at my expense despite having a Honda guarantee.

If you like it great, perhaps if I wore rose tinted specs I would.

Regards all

Juan
 

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The test drive involved no ramps in car parks, no reversing up gradients, no reversing on a freezing winters morning, no roundabouts entered at a 3 mph crawl.........do you want me to go on.

The more I used the car the more I realised what a naff system it was.

The final straw was when it needed reprogramming at my expense despite having a Honda guarantee.

If you like it great, perhaps if I wore rose tinted specs I would.

Regards all

Juan
Don't think I do wear rose tinted specs?

I drive 20k a year. So far done 12k with the I-Shift. Drive all manner of roads from motorways to dirt tracks on mountain sides. Never once had a single problem with it. Managed to reverse up steep gradients no problem. Drove in snow without a problem. Driven through Cumbernauld, roundabout kingdom of Scotland and again never had a problem once.

So not every single I-shift is horrendous.

You've had a bad example.

I once had a bad banana in a bunch. Doesn't mean every banana in the world is bad.

So I am not even putting up with the problems I simply do not even encounter them.

I think you are the one that has some sort of specs on as you seem to see every single I-shift being the same ad the bad example you had even though others have stated they have no problems.

Maybe you had a bad experience but there is no need to repost the bad experience you had when the original poster asked a simple question.
 

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There are plenty of us out there with negative views of the i shift.

The Civics not a bad car, but IMHO, which is not the same as yours, the i shift is a very poor system and it annoyed me more with each of the 40,000 miles that passed under its wheels.

To drive across Spain on lovely smooth deserted roads which it did a dozen times at least, superb, hard to fault. But unfortunately in other situations it was left lacking..........luckily when it couldn't decide what gear to select at a roundabout (reported by others numerous times on this forum) no one ever did run into the back of me........

One big positive, it was dead easy to sell privately for £2k more than my Honda dealer offered me.

Regards all

Juan
 

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There are plenty of us out there with negative views of the i shift.

The Civics not a bad car, but IMHO, which is not the same as yours, the i shift is a very poor system and it annoyed me more with each of the 40,000 miles that passed under its wheels.

To drive across Spain on lovely smooth deserted roads which it did a dozen times at least, superb, hard to fault. But unfortunately in other situations it was left lacking..........luckily when it couldn't decide what gear to select at a roundabout (reported by others numerous times on this forum) no one ever did run into the back of me........

One big positive, it was dead easy to sell privately for £2k more than my Honda dealer offered me.

Regards all

Juan
Very odd situation for you. Most of these systems are absolutely fine. I have also driven very steep hills in forwards and reverse with continuous and stop/start movements with no issue. I have also had no issue with pulling away at 3mph or any speed for that matter. I have also had no problem with slippy surfaces such as grass, snow or ice. The gear issue with the roundabout was sorted out with the software update.
 
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