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I have been having this problem for a month or so (since I bought the car) only happens when I have either been driving >60mph or accelerated hard. Best case scenario it's a bit 'jumpy' when coming down the gears, worst case the 'check system' will appear and it will go into neutral. If it does that it can be a nightmare to get it back into gear, a lot of back and forward auto-neutral. I have had the software updated and auto oil changed but still have the issue.
I have a feeling it might be to do with the battery/alternator as I have read somewhere the car switches off the alternator to give more performance at times and I think the voltage isn't quite right for the motor to engage the clutch when it's switched back on. That sounds possible?
I am just worried it is the actuator as it's a £1000+ replacement. I have also been told however when these pack in they give up completely which it hasn't done.
Any other info you guys might have would be appreciated.
 

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Hi,
I have been having this problem for a month or so (since I bought the car) only happens when I have either been driving >60mph or accelerated hard. Best case scenario it's a bit 'jumpy' when coming down the gears, worst case the 'check system' will appear and it will go into neutral. If it does that it can be a nightmare to get it back into gear, a lot of back and forward auto-neutral. I have had the software updated and auto oil changed but still have the issue.
I have a feeling it might be to do with the battery/alternator as I have read somewhere the car switches off the alternator to give more performance at times and I think the voltage isn't quite right for the motor to engage the clutch when it's switched back on. That sounds possible?
I am just worried it is the actuator as it's a £1000+ replacement. I have also been told however when these pack in they give up completely which it hasn't done.
Any other info you guys might have would be appreciated.
1. when the clutch was changed/mileage/?
2.what errors on him-hds interface /code/?
3.new clutch actuator 1700pounds+ but there is possibility to regenerate it
4.it is very dangerous to drive this car
5.look at this post http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-f...83-honda-civic-2006-ishift-stuck-reverse.html
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Peter
 

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1. when the clutch was changed/mileage/?
2.what errors on him-hds interface /code/?
3.new clutch actuator 1700pounds+ but there is possibility to regenerate it
4.it is very dangerous to drive this car
5.look at this post http://www.civinfo.com/forum/bugs-f...83-honda-civic-2006-ishift-stuck-reverse.html
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Peter
Thanks Peter,
Not sure when clutch was changed last, would doubt that this was the issue though and gear changes are perfect 99% of the time, it is only when I exceed 70mph. Done a bit of testing on this front and have driven at 68-69mph for several miles and then started breaking, no problem at all. If I drive 70mph+ and start breaking it is jumpy (like a new driver would be lifting the cloth up to quickly) or it will go into neutral and check system light comes on.

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Thanks Peter,
Not sure when clutch was changed last, would doubt that this was the issue though and gear changes are perfect 99% of the time, it is only when I exceed 70mph. Done a bit of testing on this front and have driven at 68-69mph for several miles and then started breaking, no problem at all. If I drive 70mph+ and start breaking it is jumpy (like a new driver would be lifting the cloth up to quickly) or it will go into neutral and check system light comes on.

Gordon
Yes symptoms are very different.
but let think what are You doing at the speed 70 mph breaking or rather you give the actuator signal to reduce the gear and it is slipping and stays on neutral, maybe overheated, or with DTC error P19FF and/or P0810
clutch position control error.
Without good OBDII interface it will be difficult to diagnose
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Seems like the clutch is failing to disengage. Need to have the clutch actuator looked at.
 

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Hi,
It's been a while since I created this thread but thought I would update it as I didn't get to the bottom of this problem.
It was actually a rear ABS/VSA sensor.
Eventually I got a warning and my ABS and VSA turned off during this time my gear box had no issues, although when one of these sensors go your throttle response becomes slow to avoid wheel spin. 2 seconds on the computer and rear off side ABS sensor gone. Replaced, not that cheap but you don't need to get them from Honda anymore which is good, and never had the problem again.
I assume the gear box uses this sensor to monitor speed etc and since it was playing up was causing my issues.
Hopefully this will help someone out.
Not that i'll need to worry anymore I got a Type R! :-D
 

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Yes symptoms are very different.
but let think what are You doing at the speed 70 mph breaking or rather you give the actuator signal to reduce the gear and it is slipping and stays on neutral, maybe overheated, or with DTC error P19FF and/or P0810
clutch position control error.
Without good OBDII interface it will be difficult to diagnose
Peter
Hi peter, i have the codes P19FF and PO810. Also other codes; P19E6- clutch temp too high, U1405-(F-can malfunction/ invalid data recieved from ABS/VSA modular control unit),61-01-battery voltage low..
The Car has currently had a clutch changed and is still failing to engage a gear, or start. Pls help. My car is a honda civic 1.4i dsi i-shift (06). 104kmiles. Used mainly for daily commute n school runs.
 

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One thing I have noticed with mine is that from stopping to acceleration in the mornings, the car isn't very responsive as I need to put my foot down and it jumps. I don't really let it warm up much, maybe just a couple minutes. I did however, warm the car up for about 10 minutes on Sautrday before hitting the motorway and the car drove very smooth. I only drive the car in auto mode but am thinking of trying manual mode...
 

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One thing I have noticed with mine is that from stopping to acceleration in the mornings, the car isn't very responsive as I need to put my foot down and it jumps. I don't really let it warm up much, maybe just a couple minutes. I did however, warm the car up for about 10 minutes on Sautrday before hitting the motorway and the car drove very smooth. I only drive the car in auto mode but am thinking of trying manual mode...

Maybe just need the gear box oil changed to correct this issue, this been done recently?
I had this done as part of looking into this issue, was pretty cheaper to get done.


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Maybe just need the gear box oil changed to correct this issue, this been done recently?
I had this done as part of looking into this issue, was pretty cheaper to get done.


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Hey Vergil, not sure if that has been done to be honest, I have had the car for about two weeks. The car has 47,000 miles on it and the service book for 54,000 miles has been been stamped as the previous owner got it serviced at 45729 miles, the car seems to have had regular servicing in the book.

There is also vehicle health check documentation from 2013 which mentions that the i-shift update was done. How much did it cost you to change the oil?
 

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Can't remember what mileage the oil suppose to get changed, the manual isn't until 75k I think. Cost wise, it was a little while ago but I'm sure I got the oil changed and software updated for a about £40. That was a Honda specialist (not dealership) you'll need to find a Honda specialist to get the software updated. Oil and software is good maintenance anyway so defiantly worth trying.


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Can't remember what mileage the oil suppose to get changed, the manual isn't until 75k I think. Cost wise, it was a little while ago but I'm sure I got the oil changed and software updated for a about £40. That was a Honda specialist (not dealership) you'll need to find a Honda specialist to get the software updated. Oil and software is good maintenance anyway so defiantly worth trying.


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Cool, thanks Vergil.
 

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Thanks peter,

Trying to understand the language.��
Quick update; i have had the TCM actuator reconditioned, ecu testing said it was faulty, something about brushes. Good call by you.

Just wondering what i will have to do next to get it moving.
 

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Thanks peter,

Trying to understand the language.��
Quick update; i have had the TCM actuator reconditioned, ecu testing said it was faulty, something about brushes. Good call by you.

Just wondering what i will have to do next to get it moving.
 

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I have been having this problem for a month or so (since I bought the car) only happens when I have either been driving >60mph or accelerated hard. Best case scenario it's a bit 'jumpy' when coming down the gears, worst case the 'check system' will appear and it will go into neutral.
It was actually a rear ABS/VSA sensor.
Eventually I got a warning and my ABS and VSA turned off during this time my gear box had no issues, although when one of these sensors go your throttle response becomes slow to avoid wheel spin. 2 seconds on the computer and rear off side ABS sensor gone. Replaced, not that cheap but you don't need to get them from Honda anymore which is good, and never had the problem again.
I assume the gear box uses this sensor to monitor speed etc and since it was playing up was causing my issues.
Hopefully this will help someone out.
Not that i'll need to worry anymore I got a Type R! :-D
Hi,

I'm sorry to bring back this very old post again but yesterday I found it and I just signed to the forum to write this message.

Your description in the first post sounds very familiar to my problem but my car is also stalling sometimes. I'm from Germany and my Civic (FN1 from 2008) is with the local Honda service for 3 days now and they're trying to figure out what's wrong with it.

Yesterday I already gave them Gordon's great clue about the ABS/ASR sensors but the guy told me that there is no error code or warning lamp showing up for it so they checked the gear box itself and presented me a very expensive cost estimate today.

Could you please let me know if you had error codes or flashing warning lamps about the damaged ABS/ASR sensor? This would be very helpful for me!

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,

Norbert
 

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Thank you for your reply. I will do! But it would be great if Vergil300 could let me know if he had errors or warning lamps with his issue. Unfortunately I don't know if he is still reading this thread anyway.
 

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I had this Check System error last night with a Cog sign.
Guessing it is probably this actuator thing now. Only bought it six weeks ago.
 

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I'll ask the resident expert automobilklub, and see if he can help. I assume the i-Shift versions are a bit sluggish at gear changes sometimes? Over the last week or so it has almost stalled on occasions when going slow (like reversing, which seems to be an art in itself).
 
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