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Hi guys,

Just a funny general question for everyone who has gone from Petrol models: Type R/S or 1.8 etc.. to a Derv;) do you miss something about the petrol cars any types of mods or noises or styles/interiors which you can't apply to your derv or may not have the same effect?

Really interested to see what everyone says because I like my derv and would not go back to petrol unless money was no object (In relation to Insurance ownership and mpg etc... Don't forget eveybody has changed for different reasons so come on spill the beans!! what do you miss! or would you change back if you did have available funds! :popcorn:
 

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I went from petrol to DERV which i loved and couldnt see past for a while but im back to petrol engines again! (non turbo), this is simply due to the fact that diesels arent what they used to be, to explain - dual mass flywheels are very unreliable :worms:, diesel particulate filters are awful [smilie=mad.gif] , turbos are good when they work & when they dont they shred the engine, exhaust gas recirculation is another crappy thing :facepalm: they gum up with oil etc and stop working.

Sorry lol :D
 

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My derv civic is my first civic but I moved to it from a 2.0 litre then a 2.7 V6 Hyundai Coupe...

I wouldn't go back to petrol especially not NA, I pull 500miles a week (minimum) and on running costs alone the Derv has paid for itself already. I even prefer the performance of the derv, the motorway torque and even the acceleration is great and shows up a lot of big motors!

I would love to play with a Type R as a toy, but for a daily driver, I won't be going back!
 

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My type S was the first derv I owned.

When I was looking for it I could have bought a type R for the same money but at the time I was looking for good mpg and cheaper road tax.

I loved my 2.2 and would recommend it to anyone the only thing that let it down was non colour coded trims and a pretty drab interior IMO.

After 2 years I decided to get a champ white CTR as I had seen one in the Honda dealers when I was looking for my derv and loved the look of it.
 

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I went from petrol to DERV which i loved and couldnt see past for a while but im back to petrol engines again! (non turbo), this is simply due to the fact that diesels arent what they used to be, to explain - dual mass flywheels are very unreliable :worms:, diesel particulate filters are awful [smilie=mad.gif] , turbos are good when they work & when they dont they shred the engine, exhaust gas recirculation is another crappy thing :facepalm: they gum up with oil etc and stop working.

Sorry lol :D
Cool Durrantie I can see why you went back. Fair enough. I can't really question your reasons lol. ;) You see I must admit I do miss the tuned exhaust sound which you get with the petrol lol.
 

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My derv civic is my first civic but I moved to it from a 2.0 litre then a 2.7 V6 Hyundai Coupe...

I wouldn't go back to petrol especially not NA, I pull 500miles a week (minimum) and on running costs alone the Derv has paid for itself already. I even prefer the performance of the derv, the motorway torque and even the acceleration is great and shows up a lot of big motors!

I would love to play with a Type R as a toy, but for a daily driver, I won't be going back!
Excellent so for you the derv does pay! but if money no object I could see you owning a second car lol! ;) but MPG is one of the best things with the Derv if you do do lots of miles! Interested always wondered what the Hyundai coupe was like never had chance to try one?
 

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My type S was the first derv I owned.

When I was looking for it I could have bought a type R for the same money but at the time I was looking for good mpg and cheaper road tax.

I loved my 2.2 and would recommend it to anyone the only thing that let it down was non colour coded trims and a pretty drab interior IMO.

After 2 years I decided to get a champ white CTR as I had seen one in the Honda dealers when I was looking for my derv and loved the look of it.
Nice1 Dobe, my neighbour has the White CTR I do like them. I have to admit that if money no object I would buy a mugen just to see what it was like lol. For now tho I am sticking with my Derv.
 

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I've also gone back to petrol from diesel. The reasons are my job changed. I've had diesels since 2003 (mainly BMW) and I was doing 40,000 miles a year, but now I'm doing around 10K. So when my Ford Fiesta diesel expired after 171,000 excellent miles I decided to go back to Honda VTEC power (had a 51 plate 7th gen 1.6 VTEC from new for two years.). I tested the Civic diesel alongside my current car and liked it a lot. If I'd still been doing 40K a year I would have got one, but the economics didn't make sense and so I went down the petrol route. I do like being able to rev the at times, something you can't do with derv power but I do miss the torque. Still you can't have everything and you enjoy your diesel power CTR-PeteLFS :D
 

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yep my mate who has an audi a5 3 litre tdi quattro, remapped to 300 bhp .keeps missing the days of a high revving dc2 mad caase
he says straight line no problem but a derv just kinds of runs out of pufff sometimes he says for a 300 + bhp car lol

i did get put off a tdi due to high maint costs and service c osts if any t hing went wrong . ie my friends a4 1.9tdi estate turbo went 1k to fix . diesel particulate filters etc
 

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There's no mods you can do for the petrol models that give 45% (ish) power increase (140 - 195, if my % is wrong it's because im bad at math!) for £300 (ish) ! :eek:

I do miss exhaust notes you cant get on dervs but that's about it !!
The turbo whine is enough to make me smile while I plant my foot, but can still get 60mpg when I need to !

I would never go back to a normal N/A petrol, i would consider a CTR, but only since TDI have looked into turbos a bit more for them!

Next moves a Version9 Scooby though if all goes to plan :)

Edit: luckily we dont have DPF in the UK version!
Also, i cant say it's ever "run out of puff", since the remap, certainly before! it was terrible after 3.5k or so
 

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I've also gone back to petrol from diesel. The reasons are my job changed. I've had diesels since 2003 (mainly BMW) and I was doing 40,000 miles a year, but now I'm doing around 10K. So when my Ford Fiesta diesel expired after 171,000 excellent miles I decided to go back to Honda VTEC power (had a 51 plate 7th gen 1.6 VTEC from new for two years.). I tested the Civic diesel alongside my current car and liked it a lot. If I'd still been doing 40K a year I would have got one, but the economics didn't make sense and so I went down the petrol route. I do like being able to rev the at times, something you can't do with derv power but I do miss the torque. Still you can't have everything and you enjoy your diesel power CTR-PeteLFS :D
Nice macsport, In some ways that is great that you started doing less miles so you could go back to petrol. I say tho your fiesta did ok 171,000 not bad. I used to have a CTR hence the user name. I do miss being able to rev the nuts off it as you say but I must admit tho I love the amount of Torque with my Derv.:D
 

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yep my mate who has an audi a5 3 litre tdi quattro, remapped to 300 bhp .keeps missing the days of a high revving dc2 mad caase
he says straight line no problem but a derv just kinds of runs out of pufff sometimes he says for a 300 + bhp car lol

i did get put off a tdi due to high maint costs and service c osts if any t hing went wrong . ie my friends a4 1.9tdi estate turbo went 1k to fix . diesel particulate filters etc
Hi cv65user, cool that's some mod on an audi:). Good point about the costs I have noticed that if you go to the main dealers some of them charge a lot more for service on Dervs when you can do some of the stuff yourself as long as you look after your engine properly.
 

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There's no mods you can do for the petrol models that give 45% (ish) power increase (140 - 195, if my % is wrong it's because im bad at math!) for £300 (ish) ! :eek:

I do miss exhaust notes you cant get on dervs but that's about it !!
The turbo whine is enough to make me smile while I plant my foot, but can still get 60mpg when I need to !

I would never go back to a normal N/A petrol, i would consider a CTR, but only since TDI have looked into turbos a bit more for them!

Next moves a Version9 Scooby though if all goes to plan :)

Edit: luckily we dont have DPF in the UK version!
Also, i cant say it's ever "run out of puff", since the remap, certainly before! it was terrible after 3.5k or so
Cool Scotty182, I have often looked at the remaps but just worry about long term effects but I agree with the MPG and putting your foot down.
Even tho you like the Civic goodluck in the future if you do get a Version9 Scooby nice! I wonder what colours you would go for?:cool:
 

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Before i got this 2.2 i had a 2.0hdi 206. I swore i would never go diesel again! I hated the noise! I missed my 1.1 206 noise. I love a tuned petrol sound,cant beat it! I got convinced to try the 2.2 diesel thinking great another noisy horrible sounding diesel.. to my surprise i loved the sound, power and everything! So i have one now :D best car ever!
 

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Before i got this 2.2 i had a 2.0hdi 206. I swore i would never go diesel again! I hated the noise! I missed my 1.1 206 noise. I love a tuned petrol sound,cant beat it! I got convinced to try the 2.2 diesel thinking great another noisy horrible sounding diesel.. to my surprise i loved the sound, power and everything! So i have one now :D best car ever!
Hi Hotchy, Thanks for your contribution nice to see you are pleased with your derv. I have never driven the Pug 2.0hdi to be honest can't say I liked last years version when it comes to image not my cup of tea (How did topgear describe it: a frogs mouth or something sorry if I have made offence to any pug owners lol) but was it a good car for you and did you find that it was well built etc.. in comparision to your new civic 2.2? :D
 

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i miss the nascar esque howl of a vtec with induction mods i dont miss 20mpg though and its horses for courses. the 2.2 will do 50mph in second thats great for a derv
Thanks costel, I admit no other engine can emulate the V-TEC and if you have owned one you won't forget what it was like. :cool:
I agree with the 20mpg lol I remember when I had my CTR and I managed a whopping 35mpg and that was with the Air-con turned off oh forgot to say and I drove it like a granny lol. The funny thing is at the time I actually thought that was something for the guiness book of records.
I know the point you make about 50mph in second I was surprised by that when I first got my 2.2 derv it can move when you want it to. ;)
 

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Five and a half years with an EP3, I miss the vtec :( I do not miss fuelling up every 280 miles or the dreaded road tax....I changed to the 2.2 as my mileage per year is due to increase, the torque is awesome though I have to admit!!! I'm happy but the EP3 will always be the best car I've owned so far!!!!
 

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Hi Hotchy, Thanks for your contribution nice to see you are pleased with your derv. I have never driven the Pug 2.0hdi to be honest can't say I liked last years version when it comes to image not my cup of tea (How did topgear describe it: a frogs mouth or something sorry if I have made offence to any pug owners lol) but was it a good car for you and did you find that it was well built etc.. in comparision to your new civic 2.2? :D

It was bullet proof that thing only good thing about it, 70k and only needed new tyres and brakes, never rattled. It was just very boring as my first car was a 206 then my 2nd, so the hondas a massive change but the engine sounds soo much better in the honda
 

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I, for one, can't stand the din of a high-revving 4-pot, unless maybe its a CTR in V-TEC, or maybe a flat 4 Boxer. At least in the 2.2, when you press on, the 4 cylinder soundtrack is mercifully muted. Even more so at motorway speeds, where I spend most of my driving.

So, the chances of me going back to petrol are slim, unless my finances/commuting mileage changes, or manufacturers start building petrol 5-pots/V6/V8/V10/V12's etc. which can return >50mpg... :cool:
 
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