[mjdhedges]

Hi Guy's

This must have been covered before but I've looked all over the wiki and the forum and havn't turned up anything.

Does anyone know why the fuel economy is different on the civic 2.2 ES and EX. There's some differences in the spec but I'm failing to work out what could be using 1-3 mpg.

Thanks in advance!

 

[wemorgan]

Wheel/tyre sizes and vehicle mass?

 

[Relic]

+1..

frictional losses...engine/transmission/drivetrain/brakes/tyres/tracking.
Gearing..tyre pressure/tyre diameter.
breathing losses...EGR/swirl/exhaust/manifold/filter.

etc etc...

 

[mjdhedges]

Thanks for the ideas, I'm looking for something a little more solid if that's possible though.

Civic ES 2.2 with 17" alloys has 55.4 mpg
Civic EX 2.2 with 17" alloys has 52.x mpg

The only difference I can see is the ES is 10kg lighter and has the panoramic roof. Each car shares the same wheels transmission and engine. The EX has increased load on the alternator but this will be marginal.

I may have some of the specifications wrong though I'm not that failure with all of the specifications.

 

[Coldwarkid]

ES comes with 16" wheels as standard, EX also has HID's, satnav etc.

 

[Jpetrie]

Make sure you get the EX, though. You'll be a lot more satisfied!

 

[mjdhedges]

Thanks guy's, looks like the difference in mpg is nothing to worry about.

Currently eyeing up an EX.

 

[JinkyJazz]

Make sure you get the EX, though. You'll be a lot more satisfied!

Hi Jpetrie, just a quick question. I notice you had an RIP 2.2 and now have a 1.8. Happy? Mega differences? Any major reason why you changed? Am eyeing up both at the mo and just can't make 'that' decision... d'oh !
Thanks

 

[rborhara]

Yeh get the EX and my 2007 EX has panaramic roof, heated leather seats, reversing sensors, NAV and HID lights, Voice Navigation too all standard too

 

[Fr0d]

Wheel/tyre sizes and vehicle mass?

Only half right.

Wheels - yes, EX's are wider.

Mass - no, ES is the heavier car, with glass roof as standard.

 

[deni.babe]

Hi Jpetrie, just a quick question. I notice you had an RIP 2.2 and now have a 1.8. Happy? Mega differences? Any major reason why you changed? Am eyeing up both at the mo and just can't make 'that' decision... d'oh !
Thanks

i have had two 1.8 and both were great i now have the diesel whch is also great the only difference is torque the diesel is effortless for power ,the 1.8 was ok but i felt it needed to be pushed to give you that wow feel but overall still a great engine .

 

[scottrtq]

Hi Jpetrie, just a quick question. I notice you had an RIP 2.2 and now have a 1.8. Happy? Mega differences? Any major reason why you changed? Am eyeing up both at the mo and just can't make 'that' decision... d'oh !
Thanks

Ive never driven a 1.8 civic mate but ive just had a remap done by Fahad at premier turing and it is amazing. I loved the car before the remap, i LOVE it now, you have to budget for a clutch in the diesel no mater what. so id say if you are happy to do that, get the diesel its got the performance and economy at stock and if you go for a remap its a total beast of a car and maintains its economy if you want it to. but be budgeting for a trip to leeds for a cg motorsport clutch and for a remap by Fahad. around £1200 should cover it.

If someone had told me that before i got mine it might have put me off but i am soo glad im here now! i cant say it enough. I only had the remap done 4 days ago and the smile has been stuck to my face.

 

[JinkyJazz]

Yes, I've read bits all over the place about the infamous "diesel clutch"...

- is it for every model from 2006-2011...?

and if i'm looking to buy one with 50k on the clock and the clutch has already been changed, will I have to budget for another one....? If so, when?
Thanks

 

[scottrtq]

Yes, I've read bits all over the place about the infamous "diesel clutch"...

- is it for every model from 2006-2011...?

and if i'm looking to buy one with 50k on the clock and the clutch has already been changed, will I have to budget for another one....? If so, when?
Thanks

Im no expert mate I've only been a civic owner for 5 months but from what I've read on here its just basically down to luck. Ive read about guys on here having multiple clutches in 50000 miles. Mines had 42k on the clock when i got it and it started to slip about 48k now done 51k and getting replaced with a CG one in just over a week.

Ive also read about cars at around 100k on the original clutch but that seems to be very rare. There is now a different (meant to be more substancial) clutch in the newer ones (not sure what year) but I've also read posts on here of these starting to slip. (not too sure if thats just with remapped cars though)

Anyone feel free to correct me if im wrong on any the above.

 

[Relic]

near enough

 

[scottrtq]

near enough

Cheers!

 

[JohnnyBoy]

I remember reading somewhere that the panoramic roof adds quite a bit of weight.