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aside from the looks, does the mugen rear wing provide any performance? would it affect fuel consumption, handling, speed, etc?

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aside from the looks, does the mugen rear wing provide any performance? would it affect fuel consumption, handling, speed, etc?

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Its meant to be "aero" so it "should" provide more stability and handling at speed however this has yet to be proven.

However when shopping you can use the handle (the wing) to push you car around the shop... this should save you having to get a trolley?? Hope that helps.
 

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Only place I can imagine there being any additional performance would be from very high speed braking or very high speed cornering keeping the rear of the car from lifting as much...
 

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I imagine the increased drag will slow the car a bit and have a negative effect on fuel consumption.
 

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It makes your wallet so light it's akin to removing of 40KG of unsprung mass.

At the traffic lights outside your bank you can accelerate so fast from the manager it induces whiplash also
 

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It makes your wallet so light it's akin to removing of 40KG of unsprung mass.

At the traffic lights outside your bank you can accelerate so fast from the manager it induces whiplash also
Yeah :D, apart from looking nice, it does exaclty nothing in short
 

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since most of the comments are "the same & no effect", so it means there is no change on fuel consumption... ;-)
 

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Any bodywork you put in the airflow will have an effect, but usually both positive and negative. It is measured as lift over drag (the term "lift" is a carryover from aerospace even though it usually refers to the opposite where cars are concerned), and is the amount of downforce produced for a given amount of drag i.e. how much it pushes the car down versus how much it tries to pull the car back.
It will be doing something at any speed, however at normal road speeds it wouldn't be very much of either, and you would be unlikely to feel it unless it was very "draggy". The Mugen rear wing was developed in a wind-tunnel so is reasonably efficient (and of course it is adjustable).
At high (track) speeds a rear wing will be creating more downforce at the rear and helping to make the rear end more stable, but at the same time will be taking weight off the front wheels (unless there is another aerodynamic device at the front of the car creating front-end downforce at the same time), which is not necessarily what you always want when turning into a corner, particularly in a fwd car.
Happily what happens when going from high to low speed under braking is that as the rear wing sheds downforce it transfers aero balance towards the front of the car, effectively adding more weight to the front of the car helping the front wheels to "bite" and aid initial turn-in (similar to when you lift off the throttle mid-corner the front end tends to tuck in a bit tighter).
The bottom line is that yes, the wing does always do something, but unless you are going too fast for the road, probably not anything you would notice in the handling, and anything that produces any sort of drag will be making the engine work slightly harder to push it along at a given speed, so will have a detrimental effect on fuel consumption, but again in this case probably too little to be of concern.
 

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excellent responses guys especially from MUGEN. very helpful, I appreciate it!

now I'm gonna shop around for a mugen wing! :)
 

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Any bodywork you put in the airflow will have an effect, but usually both positive and negative. It is measured as lift over drag (the term "lift" is a carryover from aerospace even though it usually refers to the opposite where cars are concerned), and is the amount of downforce produced for a given amount of drag i.e. how much it pushes the car down versus how much it tries to pull the car back.
It will be doing something at any speed, however at normal road speeds it wouldn't be very much of either, and you would be unlikely to feel it unless it was very "draggy". The Mugen rear wing was developed in a wind-tunnel so is reasonably efficient (and of course it is adjustable).
At high (track) speeds a rear wing will be creating more downforce at the rear and helping to make the rear end more stable, but at the same time will be taking weight off the front wheels (unless there is another aerodynamic device at the front of the car creating front-end downforce at the same time), which is not necessarily what you always want when turning into a corner, particularly in a fwd car.
Happily what happens when going from high to low speed under braking is that as the rear wing sheds downforce it transfers aero balance towards the front of the car, effectively adding more weight to the front of the car helping the front wheels to "bite" and aid initial turn-in (similar to when you lift off the throttle mid-corner the front end tends to tuck in a bit tighter).
The bottom line is that yes, the wing does always do something, but unless you are going too fast for the road, probably not anything you would notice in the handling, and anything that produces any sort of drag will be making the engine work slightly harder to push it along at a given speed, so will have a detrimental effect on fuel consumption, but again in this case probably too little to be of concern.
nice explanation :) always good to learn something... the reason why I love this site :D
 

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Any bodywork you put in the airflow will have an effect, but usually both positive and negative. It is measured as lift over drag (the term "lift" is a carryover from aerospace even though it usually refers to the opposite where cars are concerned), and is the amount of downforce produced for a given amount of drag i.e. how much it pushes the car down versus how much it tries to pull the car back.
It will be doing something at any speed, however at normal road speeds it wouldn't be very much of either, and you would be unlikely to feel it unless it was very "draggy". The Mugen rear wing was developed in a wind-tunnel so is reasonably efficient (and of course it is adjustable).
At high (track) speeds a rear wing will be creating more downforce at the rear and helping to make the rear end more stable, but at the same time will be taking weight off the front wheels (unless there is another aerodynamic device at the front of the car creating front-end downforce at the same time), which is not necessarily what you always want when turning into a corner, particularly in a fwd car.
Happily what happens when going from high to low speed under braking is that as the rear wing sheds downforce it transfers aero balance towards the front of the car, effectively adding more weight to the front of the car helping the front wheels to "bite" and aid initial turn-in (similar to when you lift off the throttle mid-corner the front end tends to tuck in a bit tighter).
The bottom line is that yes, the wing does always do something, but unless you are going too fast for the road, probably not anything you would notice in the handling, and anything that produces any sort of drag will be making the engine work slightly harder to push it along at a given speed, so will have a detrimental effect on fuel consumption, but again in this case probably too little to be of concern.

Back from the dead. . .

Do you know if there is any info on the Full AERO kit? Like the comparison on drag coefficient versus OEM? Etc. .
 
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