[andy18n]

Hi all
N/S rear suspension started knocking recently. Sounds very much like the 'chatter' you get from worn front anti roll bar drop links (I did these recently) - its not a first thing in the morning noise - all the time on uneven surfaces. Definitely rear. Up to 86k now.
Have seen a few issues on the forum such as rear shocks, retorquing the bolts but it really sounds more like a worn bush or similar.
Anyone experienced this and what was causing it?
Cheers
Andy

 

[furio101]

Andy, have you jacked it up and tried rocking the wheel back to see if there is any play? The other trick they do in an MOT to test worn joints is to jack the car up so the tire is 1 inch of the ground and put either a large pry bar or crow bar on the ground under the tire and slightly lift the wheel up and down and either feel the joint os have a look under to see any excessive movement.

 

[andy18n]

Did that yesterday and can't feel any significant play. If I grab the wheel and rock it hard can hear the clicking but can't locate it.
Guess its off to the garage....

 

[andy18n]

I have spent some time this morning looking at it again. I am 99% sure its coming from the device in the attached photo but what is it? Its a small drop link which is worn and has play but there's also play in the component it fixes to, which seems to be some sort of senser with a lever on it as it has a wire coming from it. There's only one on the nearside, not one on offside. The lever bit has play too and makes exactly the noise I hear on the move.
No play anywhere else, had previously retorqued suspension mounting bolts and taken dampers off to check for noise and fine.
Haven't got a manual so can't identify this bit any ideas? Also any advice or experience of changing?

Thanks
Andy

 

[furio101]

Something to do with anti roll bar, the drop links are often the cause of knocking noise. Check for failed bushings and check bolts are tight. Hard to tell what part is the problem from the picture. The bushings are easy to replace i'm sure you can get the drop link from Lings parts, search online

 

[furio101]

Try Original Honda Parts | Honda Cars | Honda Motorcycles | Honda Power Products | Lings Honda you car look at expolded diagrams of parts on that site it may help

 

[andy18n]

Thanks. Its the little connecting rod assembly that looks like an anti roll bar drop link but its really small and connects to something electrical and the rear beam.
Never seen a component like it before and there's only one on the nearside so don't think its an anti roll component.
had a look on that website and can't see it around the rear beam components. Guess if no one knows what it is will have to speak to dealer tomorrow
Thanks

 

[Neverhadone]

After market xenon hight adjuster module?

 

[andy18n]

Can't be aftermarket no mods done from new but is an EX with HID lights so may be that. Will phone dealer tomorrow.

 

[andy18n]

Well it is the rear HID headlight leveller - Lings have been massively helpful. This is the point at which you pay the price for technology.....you can't buy the control arm separately, you have to buy the whole unit at a whopping £250ish (part alone). I could try a breakers but could end up with same problem.
Anyone got any suggestions? There must be others who have had or are going to get this issue with EX's with HID lights.
I think I might remove the control arm/rod, measure it, and try and source an equivalent. I'm sure there will be something with the same dimensions out there. Its basically exactly the same as a small anti roll bar drop link.
Thanks, Andy

 

[furio101]

Suggest breakers, have you called your local dealer and ask if they have a fix that does not include replacing the unit.as the bushes can't be that unique, take it off the car and try places like euro parts as some parts are used on other cars that may be similar?

 

[Bloodstone1964]

knocking

just had a cal from honda who have my car they say yesterday after a inspection they found my springs are fitted upside down not sure if it the fix waiting for a call after honda put it right and test the car

 

[andy18n]

Thanks for info. Meant to post here a while ago but a lot has happened since....removed the offending link and whilst improved, a knocking was still there. Greased joints in current link arm and refitted. That bit is now fine.
Ended up taking to local garage. They had people hanging off the rear suspension, no play anywhere. Removed dampers and checked, all seemed fine. Took car back out, knocking still there.
Ended up with mechanics sat in rear of car removing trim and listening all over the place. In the end one of they guys was still convinced it was coming up through damper, ie an internal valve noise or similar even though no play anywhere. Decided to change dampers as a chance and it sorted it straightaway. Did change bottom bolts and both sets of upper mounting rubbers as well.
I bought KYB Gas a Just dampers, £120 for the set delivered off Ebay. They have utterly transfomed the whole car. Ride is more compliant, absolutely no rear suspension noise at all (knocking gone but usual 'Civic' noises that I've had from new have gone too), handling has improved. Its like a different car, honestly. Made such a difference - and a vast improvement over the original Honda dampers even when they were nearly new. I can't reccomend this enough if others have same problem.
Cheers, Andy

 

[jamie_c69]

Anyone else tried kyb shocks? Looking to do my rears

 

[Drejc]

I have a set of kyb at home and still w8ing on eibach to arrive.. Will post how they perform when fited


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[Fkkirk]

I had kyb on fronts suspension was far too hard for my liking so fitted anschlor think they are and Sachs springs brilliant handling and got suplex springs on the rear bit low like and not as firm as the front so may swap for Sachs on rear too .... Ebay for u

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[cosmicma]

Anyone else tried kyb shocks? Looking to do my rears

i have KYB shocks front and back with eibach springs and the ride is fine

before changing the shocks i had already put eibach springs on and because of the original back shocks being worn you could feel the back suspension kick over pot holes etc which is a sure sign they are not damping properly. after replacing the back shocks with KYB gas assist the kick disappeared making the car feel a lot better

the fronts were changed a couple / few months ago because the drivers side front damper seemed weak.
when i got round to changing the front shocks the front drivers side wasn't weak it was basically buggered but no signs of leaking oil. passenger side was fine but they usually are it's the drivers side that seems to suffer on these 2.2's

replaced with KYB front shock and the ride is quite civilised ( i still have a reasonably functioning backbone ) the car feels better for the KYB's but with the condition of one of the front shocks any new shocks would have improved the ride . i chose KYB for the front because i was happy with the rears and were in stock very local to me