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Hello all.
My current car is a car for a disabled driver (CFDD (me (spastic))) and it will soon be too small as we need a family car.
I'm very keen to get one of the most reliable cars available, and since I've heard good things about Hondas and their reliability, I thought I would check out the Civic. Due to my CP, I need an auto box.
My maximum price will be that of the Civic although I would love an Accord. The trade, however, is not happening until 2013 at the earliest and more likely in 2014.
I was then very sad to read that the civic has had loads of problems. I like the space available (boot, magic seats etc). However, if it's faulty I'll turn to another make.
My municipality will support me financially if the car is granted as a CFDD which is a big help. Nevertheless, in return I'm "stuck" with the car for six years before I'm allowed to change it again. Hence, reliability is of utmost importance as I won't be able to buy another "just" because the one I have/will get keeps breaking down.
Now to be fair, by 13/14 the 9th. gen. (2012 onwards) will have been on the road for some time revealing it's reliability or lack thereof, so I suppose we will have an indication buy then.
Looking into faults statistics I am confused: I like reading Autobilds "Dauer Test" (Long term test with the cars covering 100,000 kilometers before they are evaluated. In this test, the Civic (2006 model) did fairly well with a total of only two minus points. However, a Danish MOT statistic from 2012 revealed the 30 or 33(!) percent of the civic inspected had faults when only four years old.
Then again, an English fleet company put Civic as one of the most reliable models. So I really don't know what to think anymore.
I can just take into account the faults/disappointments people are wrinting about here and the fact that the "Dauer tested" Toyota Avensis (built in UK) did bad. It seems to me that Japanese cars, when built in Europe/UK to a wast extent looses their reliability.
Below is a list of vehicles I have /am still considering. I.e. They are "competing" with the Civic, if you will, to take up the empty spot in my future carport/ garage.
Honda Civic (2012 and onwards):
Positives:
Boot space
magic seats
more reliable auto box compared to VWs DSG(7) which has given VAG a LOT of problems
Japanese car (wife is Japanese)
No turbo but N/A: more reliable
Quite a generous amount of kit on the 1.8 Sport model in Denmark (Is that model the one called Type S in UK?)
Negatives:
Reliability not good?
No turbo engine (lacks torque?)
Very soft paint
1.8 I-Vtec may be a dated engine in 13/14
Skoda Octavia:
Positives:
Massives of space
Available as Combi (Skoda's name for "Wagon") within my budget.
1.4 TSI engine (good torque, good MPGs)
4 year warranty
As a family car, you get VERY much car for your hard earned cash.
Negative:
DSG(7) VERY unreliable and VERY expensive to fix.
Opel/Vauxhall Astra 1.4T
Positives:
Design
Comfortable and supportive seats (i have bag problems quite often)
(Based on my mates 1.2 Corsa): likely to have very low road noise)
Six Speed converter automatic: more reliable than Dual Clutch DSG types.
Classy cabin (based on reviews)
Available as Sports Tourer
Negatives:
1.4T SLIGHTLY more thirsty than 1.8 I-VTEC.
1.4T is a new engine, hence, we don't know about it's reliability.
Less bootspace than the Civic 370 vs 410 litres
In general, Opel is subpar to Honda in reliability statistics
About me:
I'm not a "racer head" at all. I, basically, don't care about the 0-62 times that much. I think "duels" at intersections are stupid: waste of tires and fuel. Since I cannot go anywhere without my car, it needs to be VERY, VERY reliable.
I doubt I will drive much more than 9,000 miles annually, So I guess I'm better of with petrol.
Now, this being a Honda forum, I take it there will be biased posts, however, I would appreciate if you would try to be honest
Oh, and I don't like French cars, they break down/ have fault to often.
Yours,
Nicolai
My current car is a car for a disabled driver (CFDD (me (spastic))) and it will soon be too small as we need a family car.
I'm very keen to get one of the most reliable cars available, and since I've heard good things about Hondas and their reliability, I thought I would check out the Civic. Due to my CP, I need an auto box.
My maximum price will be that of the Civic although I would love an Accord. The trade, however, is not happening until 2013 at the earliest and more likely in 2014.
I was then very sad to read that the civic has had loads of problems. I like the space available (boot, magic seats etc). However, if it's faulty I'll turn to another make.
My municipality will support me financially if the car is granted as a CFDD which is a big help. Nevertheless, in return I'm "stuck" with the car for six years before I'm allowed to change it again. Hence, reliability is of utmost importance as I won't be able to buy another "just" because the one I have/will get keeps breaking down.
Now to be fair, by 13/14 the 9th. gen. (2012 onwards) will have been on the road for some time revealing it's reliability or lack thereof, so I suppose we will have an indication buy then.
Looking into faults statistics I am confused: I like reading Autobilds "Dauer Test" (Long term test with the cars covering 100,000 kilometers before they are evaluated. In this test, the Civic (2006 model) did fairly well with a total of only two minus points. However, a Danish MOT statistic from 2012 revealed the 30 or 33(!) percent of the civic inspected had faults when only four years old.
Then again, an English fleet company put Civic as one of the most reliable models. So I really don't know what to think anymore.
I can just take into account the faults/disappointments people are wrinting about here and the fact that the "Dauer tested" Toyota Avensis (built in UK) did bad. It seems to me that Japanese cars, when built in Europe/UK to a wast extent looses their reliability.
Below is a list of vehicles I have /am still considering. I.e. They are "competing" with the Civic, if you will, to take up the empty spot in my future carport/ garage.
Honda Civic (2012 and onwards):
Positives:
Boot space
magic seats
more reliable auto box compared to VWs DSG(7) which has given VAG a LOT of problems
Japanese car (wife is Japanese)
No turbo but N/A: more reliable
Quite a generous amount of kit on the 1.8 Sport model in Denmark (Is that model the one called Type S in UK?)
Negatives:
Reliability not good?
No turbo engine (lacks torque?)
Very soft paint
1.8 I-Vtec may be a dated engine in 13/14
Skoda Octavia:
Positives:
Massives of space
Available as Combi (Skoda's name for "Wagon") within my budget.
1.4 TSI engine (good torque, good MPGs)
4 year warranty
As a family car, you get VERY much car for your hard earned cash.
Negative:
DSG(7) VERY unreliable and VERY expensive to fix.
Opel/Vauxhall Astra 1.4T
Positives:
Design
Comfortable and supportive seats (i have bag problems quite often)
(Based on my mates 1.2 Corsa): likely to have very low road noise)
Six Speed converter automatic: more reliable than Dual Clutch DSG types.
Classy cabin (based on reviews)
Available as Sports Tourer
Negatives:
1.4T SLIGHTLY more thirsty than 1.8 I-VTEC.
1.4T is a new engine, hence, we don't know about it's reliability.
Less bootspace than the Civic 370 vs 410 litres
In general, Opel is subpar to Honda in reliability statistics
About me:
I'm not a "racer head" at all. I, basically, don't care about the 0-62 times that much. I think "duels" at intersections are stupid: waste of tires and fuel. Since I cannot go anywhere without my car, it needs to be VERY, VERY reliable.
I doubt I will drive much more than 9,000 miles annually, So I guess I'm better of with petrol.
Now, this being a Honda forum, I take it there will be biased posts, however, I would appreciate if you would try to be honest
Oh, and I don't like French cars, they break down/ have fault to often.
Yours,
Nicolai
