Process after polishing

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shaunwistow

Discussion Starter · Jan 11, 2012

Hello

I will soon be giving the car a good clean. This will be Polishing with P1, then applying Prima Amigo Glaze & then FK1000p am my LSP. This will all be done by hand

Prior to doing this the car will be thoroughly cleaned, snow foam, shampoo, dried etc.

Are there any processes I should do inbetween the polish,glaze,LSP stages? I have read about IPA wipedowns? When should I do this? after polishing? if so, what % concentration of IPA should be used? after the wipedown can I go straight into using the glaze or should the car be washed again?

Cheers for you patience.

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Kotsos

· #2 · Jan 11, 2012

IPA is used after polishing to remove the oil from polishing compounds so you can see the '' true '' correction.
After polish foam the car with a mixture of apc to remove all polishing dust
Then ipa wipedown. After Ipa dont have to wash again.
Continue with glaze and then wax

You can also use that kind of IPA in all polishing procedure and after

Greene King IPA

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-kev-

· #3 · Jan 11, 2012

i believe P1 is water based so no need to use IPA afterwards..

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shaunwistow

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 11, 2012

-kev- said:
i believe P1 is water based so no need to use IPA afterwards..

Damn, hate it when I get conflicting info

robbo51

· #5 · Jan 11, 2012

Yes... GTechniq P1 is waterbased
BUT
I would use an IPA even after a water based polish..if you have some
You still need a clean base for the next stage

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shaunwistow

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 11, 2012

Might have to get some IPA then, nobody has advised what dilution rate to use. Is IPA available from UK chemists?

Maciek

· #7 · Jan 11, 2012

shaunwistow said:
Is IPA available from UK chemists?

Check fleabay for example - in various bottles there

sent from SGS.

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robbo51

· #8 · Jan 11, 2012 (Edited)

I bought mine from eBay Shaun
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ISOPROPAN...ponents_Fans_Heatsinks_SR&hash=item5adebc7d69

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Kotsos

· #9 · Jan 11, 2012

For 99% IPA you can dilute in a 960 ml bottle about 120 ml of IPA.

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Magic

· #10 · Jan 11, 2012

Robbo has given some good advice; you should still wipe the paintwork down with IPA to ensure the surface is clean and not harbouring any greasy fingerprints etc, regardless of which polish you are using. By hand, it is unlikely you'll create copious amounts of dust, so a wipedown would be sufficient - washing is a bit overkill, but not to say it wont need it. Be gentle when wiping down with IPA, it's not got great lubricity and with Honda's soft paint... it's just asking for trouble without taking good care.

Regarding dilutions - most polishes are water soluble, so they don't need a high concentration of IPA to dissolve any leftover residue. I personally use mine at 20% strength (4:1, water/product), especially when using the oily 3M polishes. You can use it much weaker though, even diluted down as low as 10%, which seems to be quite popular over in the states? So anyway, the choice is yours, but too high a concentration (>50%), I am led to believe, can cause softening of the clearcoat.

HTH.

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shaunwistow

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jan 11, 2012

Magic said:
Robbo has given some good advice; you should still wipe the paintwork down with IPA to ensure the surface is clean and not harbouring any greasy fingerprints etc, regardless of which polish you are using. By hand, it is unlikely you'll create copious amounts of dust, so a wipedown would be sufficient - washing is a bit overkill, but not to say it wont need it. Be gentle when wiping down with IPA, it's not got great lubricity and with Honda's soft paint... it's just asking for trouble without taking good care.

Regarding dilutions - most polishes are water soluble, so they don't need a high concentration of IPA to dissolve any leftover residue. I personally use mine at 20% strength (4:1, water/product), especially when using the oily 3M polishes. You can use it much weaker though, even diluted down as low as 10%, which seems to be quite popular over in the states? So anyway, the choice is yours, but too high a concentration (>50%), I am led to believe, can cause softening of the clearcoat.

HTH.

Thanks "Magic", i'll get a small bottle & dilute it right down to 15% is 7:1
Would you recommend applying iot direectly to a pad & wiping on. OR mist spray bottle & wipe off with a MF cloth/paper towel?

Magic

· #12 · Jan 11, 2012

Spray bottle with mist/fogger chemical resistant spray head. Spray onto the surface and wipe off with a shag pile microfibre :thumb:

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shaunwistow

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 11, 2012

Magic said:
Spray bottle with mist/fogger chemical resistant spray head. Spray onto the surface and wipe off with a shag pile microfibre :thumb:

Cheers, jobs a gud un. Just going to order 125ml. Got a 1litre bottle so will empty contents into that & fill with water

robbo51

· #14 · Jan 11, 2012

I apply straight on to a pad..Works for me fine

regan1985

· #15 · Jan 13, 2012

will the IPA effect any of the fillers in the polish? might be a stupid question but if it removes the oils what could it do to the fillers just something i have been wondering,as i use the megs 105/205 combo

robbo51

· #16 · Jan 13, 2012

It will remove fillers
So dont use IPA if youre using a filler rich polish like Auto Glym SR Polish

Magic

· #17 · Jan 13, 2012

I don't believe in these all-in-one products.

My process would be to polish, wipe down with IPA, then apply a proper glaze (then protect). AIO's are a "jack of all trades, master of none" imho. It's not to say they don't have their place or they don't work, just you can get better results using more specific products.

Spraying the IPA onto the microfibre as Robbo does is fine also btw, not that you needed my approval, it's another way of working. I mist onto the panel and then wipe.

robbo51

· #18 · Jan 13, 2012

The new version of SRP has less filling properties apparantly
Having said that..I agree with Magic
Polish then glaze ..then LSP

mickspy

· #19 · Jan 13, 2012

Magic said:
Robbo has given some good advice; you should still wipe the paintwork down with IPA to ensure the surface is clean and not harbouring any greasy fingerprints etc, regardless of which polish you are using. By hand, it is unlikely you'll create copious amounts of dust, so a wipedown would be sufficient - washing is a bit overkill, but not to say it wont need it. Be gentle when wiping down with IPA, it's not got great lubricity and with Honda's soft paint... it's just asking for trouble without taking good care.

+1.
A good quality microfiber towel is very helpful in this case. Plus there is no need for puting any pressure here. Same as buffing, let the towel do most of the work.

Magic said:
Regarding dilutions - most polishes are water soluble, so they don't need a high concentration of IPA to dissolve any leftover residue. I personally use mine at 20% strength (4:1, water/product), especially when using the oily 3M polishes. You can use it much weaker though, even diluted down as low as 10%, which seems to be quite popular over in the states? So anyway, the choice is yours, but too high a concentration (>50%), I am led to believe, can cause softening of the clearcoat.

HTH.

A 15%-20% dilution is just about fine for most tasks. You are not going to see any difference with a higher dilution rate.

Magic said:
I don't believe in these all-in-one products.

My process would be to polish, wipe down with IPA, then apply a proper glaze (then protect). AIO's are a "jack of all trades, master of none" imho. It's not to say they don't have their place or they don't work, just you can get better results using more specific products.

Spraying the IPA onto the microfibre as Robbo does is fine also btw, not that you needed my approval, it's another way of working. I mist onto the panel and then wipe.

I totaly get what what you saying here and in most cases I agree. However, there are some cases that might be beneficial. Take for instance Zaino. I find it does add up if you aply Zaio before layering with Z2pro.

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