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The 8th G, is there anything to compare with it ? (fuel economy and reliability etc)

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The 8th Gen really is a fantastic car and no wonder the i-vtec engine has been such a huge success.

I recently went on a 350 mile each way journey. I'd intended to use the train but they went on strike. I wasnt looking forward to a journey of that length due to our overcrowded roads etc.

I believe the fuel capacity of the 8th gen petrol is 55 litres? I filled up with E10 at my local supermarket and at that point the range was showing 441 miles.

Having travelled 136 miles the fuel gauge hadnt dropped much and the mpg was showing 53.5mpg and outside temp was 11c with mild sunshine.

On arrival the range was still around 110 miles.

Return journey showed 51.3mpg on completion and a range of 111 miles at temp 15c, distance travelled 348.

This was pretty much 80% mway holding 60-70 and 10% fast A roads

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My question is, compared to the 8th gen, is there any newer gen of civic that can compare in terms of fuel and reliability? If not, what other cars could i look at? My initial thoughts are toyota or mercedes C class diesel blue efficiency?
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That’s good economy.

8th gen fuel tank is rated at 50 litres.
Although when I last filled mine at almost empty I squeezed 52 litres in according to the pump.

The 9th gen petrol is supposed to be even better on fuel AFAIK. Car is a bit more aerodynamic.
I always found my 9G to be better than both my 8G's in the areas that mattered to me.
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The 8th Gen really is a fantastic car and no wonder the i-vtec engine has been such a huge success.

I recently went on a 350 mile each way journey. I'd intended to use the train but they went on strike. I wasnt looking forward to a journey of that length due to our overcrowded roads etc.

I believe the fuel capacity of the 8th gen petrol is 55 litres? I filled up with E10 at my local supermarket and at that point the range was showing 441 miles.

Having travelled 136 miles the fuel gauge hadnt dropped much and the mpg was showing 53.5mpg and outside temp was 11c with mild sunshine.

On arrival the range was still around 110 miles.

Return journey showed 51.3mpg on completion and a range of 111 miles at temp 15c, distance travelled 348.

This was pretty much 80% mway holding 60-70 and 10% fast A roads

oil mobil 0-20

My question is, compared to the 8th gen, is there any newer gen of civic that can compare in terms of fuel and reliability? If not, what other cars could i look at? My initial thoughts are toyota or mercedes C class diesel blue efficiency?
9th gen Civics ofc! :D same engines, probably lower kerbside weight id suspect, also my type-r 9g hits high 30s all day long, sometimes up to 43mpg on long runs.
Reliability then probably no.

Anything turbo or diesel powered is going to have far more complicated engine internals, dual mass flywheels, potential injector issues etc.

I think a Toyota Auris 1.6 is a similar car to the Civic but it's slower and duller looking.

Personally I love the mk5 VW Golf 1.6 FSI however it is not a reliable car IMO, VWs locks pack up, they get their now infamous coil packs/EML light which is pretty much a meme now. I've actually got a 1.6 FSI currently which if I can fix I'll keep. However the carbon build up inside the engine is disgusting for something that's only done 100k. Plus it has more complicated internals since it's direct injection.

The 1.8 R18 is modest, it has reasonable power output, no torque however puts out enough to be driven within the speed limits without holding anyone up. It's easy to maintain as long as there's no chain issues, just change the oil frequently and have the valve adjusted every now and again. The spark plugs last ages in them, the coolant system isn't complicated.

If you can live with the marginal ride quality the the 1.8 is a great long term prospect.

Despite the Golf being an unreliable heap of junk, I'll likely keep it and sell the Civic however if I don't it's no real hardship.
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9th gen Civics ofc! :D same engines, probably lower kerbside weight id suspect, also my type-r 9g hits high 30s all day long, sometimes up to 43mpg on long runs.
My old girl is returning 58mpg this week, I've been driving like a monk wearing ballet slippers. 🤣
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The 8th Gen really is a fantastic car and no wonder the i-vtec engine has been such a huge success. I recently went on a 350 mile each way journey. I'd intended to use the train but they went on strike. I wasnt looking forward to a journey of that length due to our overcrowded roads etc. I believe the fuel capacity of the 8th gen petrol is 55 litres? I filled up with E10 at my local supermarket and at that point the range was showing 441 miles. Having travelled 136 miles the fuel gauge hadnt dropped much and the mpg was showing 53.5mpg and outside temp was 11c with mild sunshine. On arrival the range was still around 110 miles. Return journey showed 51.3mpg on completion and a range of 111 miles at temp 15c, distance travelled 348. This was pretty much 80% mway holding 60-70 and 10% fast A roads oil mobil 0-20 My question is, compared to the 8th gen, is there any newer gen of civic that can compare in terms of fuel and reliability? If not, what other cars could i look at? My initial thoughts are toyota or mercedes C class diesel blue efficiency?
Ok let the flaming begin, but seriously? Tesla Model 3.

I recently did a 400 mile round trip and didn't need to fill up at all. Just parked at destination and plugged in. By the time my meeting was finished I was back at full capacity for the return trip. 70-80 cruising all the way. It does about 3.3 miles per kWh at motorway speeds. That's around 120 mpg equivalent. I also have a fn3 eighth gen that now sits gathering moss - I had kept it for long journeys (trade in value was a joke) but it's moved about 50 miles this year.

I've saved thousands in fuel bills since moving to the dark side (? Dork side?).

The ~500 bhp is fun too. In the US the Honda Civic is the most traded in car by people buying Tesla's, so you won't be the only one.

It's cheaper than you think to buy - monthly repayment+ home charging is about the same cost as my old diesel bill+ monthly repayment of a new 'normal' car.

.,;:: Coop :;,.
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Reliability then probably no.

Anything turbo or diesel powered is going to have far more complicated engine internals, dual mass flywheels, potential injector issues etc.

I think a Toyota Auris 1.6 is a similar car to the Civic but it's slower and duller looking.

Personally I love the mk5 VW Golf 1.6 FSI however it is not a reliable car IMO, VWs locks pack up, they get their now infamous coil packs/EML light which is pretty much a meme now. I've actually got a 1.6 FSI currently which if I can fix I'll keep. However the carbon build up inside the engine is disgusting for something that's only done 100k. Plus it has more complicated internals since it's direct injection.

The 1.8 R18 is modest, it has reasonable power output, no torque however puts out enough to be driven within the speed limits without holding anyone up. It's easy to maintain as long as there's no chain issues, just change the oil frequently and have the valve adjusted every now and again. The spark plugs last ages in them, the coolant system isn't complicated.

If you can live with the marginal ride quality the the 1.8 is a great long term prospect.

Despite the Golf being an unreliable heap of junk, I'll likely keep it and sell the Civic however if I don't it's no real hardship.
My 10 year old 9g 1.8 has never missed a beat and never let me down. Regular servicing and the best quality fluids I can find keep it in good shape. When I took the oil filler cap off for a top up, the engine was literally gleaming inside. I do use VPower by choice and have done on my last 3 cars, none of which missed a beat despite not being anywhere near new.

No it isn’t a “performance” car but I find it very smooth and easy to drive and if you want a bit of fun, keeping it on the Vtec can sometimes surprise you. I have Eibach’s on it which seems to help the ride having progressive springs and with spacers it has improved the look no end. Despite its age, I have no intention of changing and hope it will last me another 10 years.
Reliability then probably no.

Anything turbo or diesel powered is going to have far more complicated engine internals, dual mass flywheels, potential injector issues etc.

I think a Toyota Auris 1.6 is a similar car to the Civic but it's slower and duller looking.

Personally I love the mk5 VW Golf 1.6 FSI however it is not a reliable car IMO, VWs locks pack up, they get their now infamous coil packs/EML light which is pretty much a meme now. I've actually got a 1.6 FSI currently which if I can fix I'll keep. However the carbon build up inside the engine is disgusting for something that's only done 100k. Plus it has more complicated internals since it's direct injection.

The 1.8 R18 is modest, it has reasonable power output, no torque however puts out enough to be driven within the speed limits without holding anyone up. It's easy to maintain as long as there's no chain issues, just change the oil frequently and have the valve adjusted every now and again. The spark plugs last ages in them, the coolant system isn't complicated.

If you can live with the marginal ride quality the the 1.8 is a great long term prospect.

Despite the Golf being an unreliable heap of junk, I'll likely keep it and sell the Civic however if I don't it's no real hardship.
The 1.6 FSI Golf has both less power and torque than the 1.8 Civic. Worse fuel economy too.
Better ride and handling than the Civic though, with independent rear suspension.

I ran a 2.0 Mk4 Golf for many years and am well acquainted with fixing broken VWs!
Yes and I've just recently put through the 1.6 FSI to be scrapped as I couldn't fix the clogged carbon issue, too much else wrong with it to be worth my while especially as I've had the Civic over 3 years and I know the car in and out. Makes more sense to hold what I've got.

On fuel economy the Golf beat the Civic, I averaged low 40s in the Golf whereas Civic was a few mpg lower but that's counter balanced with the Golf needing to drink Super whereas the Civic can be shoved Supermarket E10 with no fuss.

IMO the Civic handles better than the Golf but dammn does the VW ride well. So smooth over almost all road surfaces whereas the Civic's rear beam and overall setup really lets the car down.

The Golf had been in the family 3 years and never really ran right, the Civic I've had for the same time and coverer 20k+ miles with only a broken driveshaft. No other big mechanical issues.

My 10 year old 9g 1.8 has never missed a beat and never let me down. Regular servicing and the best quality fluids I can find keep it in good shape. No it isn’t a “performance” car but I find it very smooth and easy to drive and if you want a bit of fun, keeping it on the Vtec can sometimes surprise you. I have Eibach’s on it which seems to help the ride having progressive springs and with spacers it has improved the look no end. Despite its age, I have no intention of changing and hope it will last me another 10 years.
I went Tein S-tech springs instead of Eibach as at the time there were none of the latter available in the UK. I've heard the 9g rides better. The Tein springs are progressive too but it rides poorly at low speed. At higher speeds it is acceptable but still the worst thing about the car.

Now I'm committed to keeping Civic as I've only got 1 car again and I'm taking trains to work.
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am well acquainted with fixing broken VWs!
Well VW does stand for Very Worn right enough.........
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If both cars were in the same condition I'd have kept the VW no doubts.

Marriage of convenience for now...
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