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Hi all,

Was on a fast road drive today and brakes faded alot after about 40 mins driving. Brake when to floor?!!!!

Slowed down for 5 mins and they came back.

Have Powerslots Discs, EBC red stuff pads, and goodridge hoses too.

Are the pads shot, But there's loads left on them.

Or do I need to bleed the system.

Or? Not too sure.

Any help or thoughts please Guys.

Regards

Rich.
 

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maybe need to re do the fluid mate, how old is it, Honda recommend a refresh after 3 yrs IIRC
 

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In that case id say the pads but i am biased against ebc as they let me down years ago

my ds2500s have never died on me
 

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Were the brakes still effective but the pedal travel was further? If so I'd be inclined to say it's the fluid that needs a change to a better fluid with a higher boiling point. If the fluid started to get hot and boil, that introduces very small amounts of air into the system which in turn will mean you'll get a longer pedal feel.

I noticed yesterday some fade and a lot of heat / smell from my OEM brakes, but I didn't get an issue with pedal feel - which in my case means it's the actual pads / discs that need a change for something that can handle more abuse. Obviously the fluid then becomes an issue (or the 'weak' link in the chain) so will uprate this at the same time.

You on Honda OEM fluid or uprated?
 

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Were the brakes still effective but the pedal travel was further? If so I'd be inclined to say it's the fluid that needs a change to a better fluid with a higher boiling point. If the fluid started to get hot and boil, that introduces very small amounts of air into the system which in turn will mean you'll get a longer pedal feel.

I noticed yesterday some fade and a lot of heat / smell from my OEM brakes, but I didn't get an issue with pedal feel - which in my case means it's the actual pads / discs that need a change for something that can handle more abuse. Obviously the fluid then becomes an issue (or the 'weak' link in the chain) so will uprate this at the same time.

You on Honda OEM fluid or uprated?
+1 I'd recommend 'upgrading' the fluid. I had Castrol Response fluid put in mine when I visited ABP and get recommendation from me.
 

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HHmmmm.
Id initially be inclined to say fluid.
I could lose my brakes and then instantly get them back by forcing the ABS (hence pads fine).
So I changed to steel lines.
Once the fluid boils thats it.
They only take so much heat.

But you already changed your lines.
Still 40 mins is a lot of abuse.... so it could be either pads or fluid.
Bleed them off and see if you get gas... then you'll know ;)
 

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Right guys,

Cheers for replys

Pads look good loads left on them, just had quick look at history, had the lot done in Dec 2009.

So I must think it is fluid.

Fluid was Castrol DOT4 is there any better?


Cheers

Rich
 

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I tend to replace BF every two years as its cheap and easy to do. Ive been using motul 5.1 for alot of years as its cheaper than rbf600 but still with a good wet boiling point.
 
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