[Mr JP]

It's been a while since I did a proper detail and I have forgotton the best appliaction techniques and the order too

I have a black car and the following products...

Meguiars G220 v2 DA
PB Black Hole Glaze
Finishcare 1000P
Bilt Hamber Auto Balm
Colinite 915

and lots of other odds and sods like AG SRP, Meguiars Gold Liquid Wax etc etc.

I was going to apply like this...

PB Black Hole using DA, buff off by hand.
Then Finishcare 1000P on and off by hand
then apply collinite 915 using bare hands (skin) and buff off with microfibre.

Anyone do this any differently, different order? products? technique?

 

[shaunwistow]

Never used a DA, but have used FK1000p, as this is a sealant I don't think you need to put anything over it. I'm sure somebody with more knowledge will be along soon.

 

[Mr JP]

Never used a DA, but have used FK1000p, as this is a sealant I don't think you need to put anything over it. I'm sure somebody with more knowledge will be along soon.

LOL thanks mate, 1000P is great stuff, I was kind of thinking it would seal the Paint but use Collinite on top for the last gloss / water beading coat.

Like you say the experts will be along soon

 

[Kotsos]

First of all clay to have better prepared surface
then use the DA with BH in low rpm with finishing pad
For me 2 layers of fk will be great without using the colli
Collinite is synthetic like FK so no need to apply it with bare hands, only carnauba waxes applied by hand like Celleste v2, rg55, glasur swissvax etc. These waxes are creamy and release their oils when rubbed and get warm.

 

[Mr JP]

First of all clay to have better prepared surface
then use the DA with BH in low rpm with finishing pad
For me 2 layers of fk will be great without using the colli
Collinite is synthetic like FK so no need to apply it with bare hands, only carnauba waxes applied by hand like Celleste v2, rg55, glasur swissvax etc. These waxes are creamy and release their oils when rubbed and get warm.

Ah I have learnt something there, I always thought Collinite 915 contained natural Carnauba, at least I'm sure I remember seeing it on the tin!

The prewash and clay is a given mate, I'm after the next steps...and I take on board what you have said. The only reason I left out BH is I hate working with it.

So you have left out any gloss / cleansers and you say BH sealent followed by 1000P sealent?

 

[shaunwistow]

FK1000p will be fine as your LSP, in between washes you could use a QD. Wash, clay, BH with DA, FK, beer

 

[Kotsos]

Its not pure carnauba, it contains a small amount of carnauba.
I think they work great and 915 will not add some gloss
IMO its better to use only one lsp because 915 solvents can weaken FK protection and gloss

 

[Kotsos]

FK1000p will be fine as your LSP, in between washes you could use a QD. Wash, clay, BH with DA, FK, beer

You forget the photos

 

[shaunwistow]

You forget the photos

Correct whilst having :beerglass: take somehoto:

 

[Mr JP]

Any way I can use black hole glaze in my regime? really want to try it and get some glosssssssssss

 

[shaunwistow]

Any way I can use black hole glaze in my regime? really want to try it and get some glosssssssssss

Go for it & don't forget the before & after pics. Due to the weather I have still not been able to use my glaze, alas it will now have to wait until next year.

 

[Mr JP]

Go for it & don't forget the before & after pics. Due to the weather I have still not been able to use my glaze, alas it will now have to wait until next year.

The only thing is I have seen debate elsewhere on whether a sealent such as 1000p will actually bond and be suitable over a glaze.

 

[shaunwistow]

The only thing is I have seen debate elsewhere on whether a sealent such as 1000p will actually bond and be suitable over a glaze.

It bonds perfectly over Prima Amigo glaze I have been told by dozens of people, some of which are pro detailers.

Having done a few searches there does not appear to be any issues using BH & then FK, sure somebody will correct this if is wrong.

 

[wanner69]

I was under the impression that most sealants like a squeaky clean surface to bond to and for best results so after your machine polishing do a full ipa wipedown then straight onto your sealant, and yes you can put a wax like colly over the top but never the other way around.

 

[shaunwistow]

I was under the impression that most sealants like a squeaky clean surface to bond to and for best results so after your machine polishing do a full ipa wipedown then straight onto your sealant, and yes you can put a wax like colly over the top but never the other way around.

I put a question up on DW & many detailers commented that you can Glaze & then use sealant. Therefore, it will be Prima Amigo & FK for me

 

[Mr JP]

Me too there is no way I'm going BH then FK!

 

[shaunwistow]

Me too there is no way I'm going BH then FK!

Why? have they said BH is no good followed by FK? The search on DW said it was ok!!!

PA is deffo ok followed by FK

 

[Mr JP]

Why? have they said BH is no good followed by FK? The search on DW said it was ok!!!

PA is deffo ok followed by FK

No because I don't believe BH offers the same gloss level as PA or Black Hole, plus it's an absolute ba****d to work with!

I think Black Hole was the accepted glaze until PA came along, unfortunately PA I don't have in my armoury at the moment so I will try Black Hole followed by FK1000p.

 

[shaunwistow]

No because I don't believe BH offers the same gloss level as PA or Black Hole, plus it's an absolute ba****d to work with!

I think Black Hole was the accepted glaze until PA came along, unfortunately PA I don't have in my armoury at the moment so I will try Black Hole followed by FK1000p.

Thats what I meant BH = Black hole, see this, dip your bread

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/cleaning/66833-prima-amigo-half-price-shinearama.html

 

[Mr JP]

Thats what I meant BH = Black hole, see this, dip your bread

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/cleaning/66833-prima-amigo-half-price-shinearama.html

Ahhhhh the confusion lol, I refer to Bilt Hamber as BH!

I am so tempted to order PA now but got a brand new bottle of Black Hole which I have never used so would be a shame not to at least try it.