Could all these faults be the start of the rot for Honda’s reputation of envious reliability? Toyota, VAG and Mercedes suffered similar troubles over the last few years which has tarnished the companies irrevocably.

Lets hope Honda see sense and respect their loyal customers by not slithering out of any warranty or good will repairs.

 

Civic clutch

Clutch on my civic 2.2 diesel currently being replaced by honda uk (slipping at 26000miles along with some good will after a call to honda uk about the inconvenience of 18 warranty issues since new

Rear shocks, windscreen check engine fault - new wiring loom windscreen, driver window, boot struts, petrol cap, etc

Still hopefully everything is sorted now.

 

Clutch Problem



Hello,
This the first time i have used this site so i apologize now. Anyway i have a 06 plate 2.2 Civic and the clutch started slipping on this @ 21000 miles, i had a word with my dealer and they said it is a wearing part and it is not warranty, i removed the clutch myself and the clutch had not worn out it had glazed up.. I took the clutch to my local dealer and they still would'nt help. Anyway we have a local gearbox and clutch manufacturer near us and he re plated my clutch with a Kevlar material. I asked him if this would ever slip again he said he has re plated a few of these and none have came back yet. I know this should be warranty but i don't think the warranty is worth anything.. Hope this helps

 

Revs jumping around between 1500-2500rpm... in 5th gear... this is something I have seen mine do...
07 - 2.2 with 16,000 on the clock.

 

Unfortunately, as you can see you're not the only ones it's happened to.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/engines-transmission/10199-clutch-slipping-24000miles-ok.html

Hi and welcome to civinfo by the way.

 

HI Mate,

Having the exact same issues. I have a Honda Civic 2.2 CDTIex Full Leather 33, 000 on the clock. Clutch started slipping, took to Arnold Clark Honda Manchester who advised that the cluch needs replacing and that they have to take photos and send to honda.
They are also claiming that it isn't a Warranty issue.
I have the EXACT same problem, trying to accellerate from 60 to 70 the revs go slightly passed 2, 000 rpm and then the needle drops under 2, 000 with a loss of power.

Are you still having issues with the Honda Dealership because if I find more people suffering from the same issues then we can proved that it's a manufacturing fault.
My friend's a Honda mechanic who says that they will need to replace both the flywheel and the clutch, and that they find this normally in issues with cruise control.

How much have Honda quoted to replace the clutch and flywheel?

Please either replay to this post or send me a private message 'PM'.

Regards

 

I have said this on a few different threads reagrding clutches on 2.2s. This IS a warranty issue and if your dealer is not willing to help then try another one. The clutch wears unevenly hence getting slip in higher gears. I have seen quite a few of these recently. They do need your car for about a week as you have to strip and inspect the clutch and flywheel then send the photos to Honda Uk who then give the permission and send the parts out which then have to be fitted. Hope this helps all you fellow 2.2 drivers. Mine is going in in the next couple of weeks when i can find alternative transport to work.

 

Hi,
I replaced my clutch as you can see from my earlier report above with a kevlar clutch @ 21000 miles the car has done 40000 miles and it has never slipped again. A mate of mine had a clutch replaced under warranty and the car has lasted 5000 miles and started slipping again and the Honda service will not pay warranty again. Honda service is ****. I am in the agricultural service trade, so i am going to put a kevlar one in it for him, the cost is pretty cheap around £500 for a pressure plate and clutch plate both covered in kevlar., the dual mass flywheel has to be check for deflection so if that is ok is is not a long job i did mine from start to finish 9 hours. As for your earlier question honda will not start a mass re work as it will cost them thousands. The car is spot on apart from the clutch problem i had. But Honda service is a shower of ****. If you have any joy let me know..
Steve

 

Hi,
I replaced my clutch as you can see from my earlier report above with a kevlar clutch @ 21000 miles
Steve

Hello mate where and how much if you dont mind me asking.

 

mine is the same, stared slipping in the early 20,000's, dealer said it wasn't clutch, not so sure now after everyone else's problems.

Now on 30,300 and it's getting worse, will have to get them to take another look, as it's out of warranty now, but at such low mileage I wouldn't expect it to go like this.

 

And you'd think Toyota have problems. Maybe the news should know about these clutch problems

 

I've submitted a report to the watchdog site with a link to the clutch failure thread. Not expecting much to happen but who knows!

Problem is when this problem goes mainstream the used values of our cars will plummit :-(

 

Clutch - one among many other problems

At 28,000 with still 3 months warranty left my clutch started slipping. Its the same problem as everyone else is reporting - starting at 2000 to about 2700 revs in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear.

The dealer first claimed it was something to do with the cruise control which they apparently adjusted and said was fixed. I took it back a few days later and insisted an mechanic come with me to show him the problem. They agreed it was the clutch but that it may be a wear and tear issue. It would have cost me £450 just to strip it and send off pictures/parts to Honda and could take weeks. To be fair they said it could well be under warranty but it was a 'catch-22' situation. They also said they hadn't heard of any other similar problems which looking at this thread must be a load of *^%*$!

My mate has a 4 year old diesel accord - same clutch problem!

 

After reading this thread I gave my 2.2 a test under load and sure enough the clutch started slipping.
Contacted dealer who has booked it in for this week and states he will need to order some 'parts'.
Not too sure what 'parts' they will be.

 

I've just had to put a call into my local garage and then Honda UK about my slipping clutch on my 05 Accord. (Accord driver i know, hope you Civic owners will forgive my intrusion).

The garage were amusing in trying to tell me they'd never heard of a slipping clutch on a 2.2 diesel before, even after i told them they replaced the clutch on the Civic of the person sitting next to me, 2 weeks ago. They then quoted me £900 for a replacement! I've had an independent quote of £400

So I called Honda UK to see if I could get a fix for free from them. They said I had an option:

I could just get it replaced.

Or, I could have to car stripped down, pictures taken of the clutch which would be sent to Hona Warranty. To do this, I would have to sign a 'waiver' stating that if 'user error' was the cause, I would have to pay to have my car put back together again. Catch 22, and don't they know it!

As soon as I said slipping clutch, I felt like they started reading from a script because it was so common, yet they all said that it was not a known issue and that it hardly ever happens.

Hmmm..... don't believe that for a minute. Think of all the money they're wasting in training their staff to reject all our claims and not say the wrong thing over the phone to us, they could use that money to sorting the f'ing problem out!

 

My daughter took her car for it's 3rd service. The dealer reported that the clutch pedal was stiff and offered a courtesy car so that they could put a new clutch in overnight. Returned next day and new clutch had been fitted. Is that good service or what ? Oh, forgot to mention, the car is an Auris.

 

i think toyota have alot of sucking up to do for their customers. honda will end up going the same way if their not carefull. top service to toyota for doing that. i wonda if they have had alot of clutch problems with these, and dont want this problem getting out???

 

I have a 2.2 SE which has now done 53,000 miles (I've done 9,000 miles since I bought it back in November last year). Strangely, it did it first back in January and then the problem went away, Honda test drove it and found no problem. Ever since it does it on some journeys but not all. I've also noticed yesterday it did it in 3rd gear and now it only does it in 4th, 5th or 6th. Could this be the same problem with it only doing it frequently rather than constantly or could it be another issue?

Dan

 

mine is intermittent, was doing it Saturday morning then was ok in the afternoon!

 

Do you think this would be classed as a faulty clutch or could it be something different?

 

I have noticed that it depends on the 'franchise'
My car is 5 months after buying it and Honda down in my area said its 99% wear and tear they are sure and will charge m eto even look at it. I called Honda UK who said exactly the same and were all sympathetic but saying 'their hands were tied'

Went to Honda Holdcroft up north where I brought it originally. They had it in next day and replaced the whole thing nad adjusted the cruise conrol. The car is like a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BEAST! It does 68mpg on the way home (46 before) and the car just whooshes off in 3rd gear, there is no lag or anything. Its more powerfull and sportier and responsive. I am completely in love with my car again

The BRILLIANT manager at the Honda I went to said that it is a fault at this milage and that its to do with the pressure plates not having enough torque and pressure in the seals while under load (ie 3rd gear)
He was so reasuring and lovely, they have to advise you if it IS wear and tear they wont cover it but as its so low in milage (49k) its most likely that fault.

They even drove us into the local town to shop all day (I live 3 hours away so couldnt go home until job was done!)

So keep trying everyone!!!!!!

 

Having read earlier posts, I dont feel so bad now. Bought a 57 Reg Civic 2.2 tdi with 70,000 and found clutch slipping in high gears if I accelerated hard. Garage changed clutch as part of sale. Ive had car 7 years, and just changed clutch again at circa 142,000 miles. I got rid of the dual mass clutch and put on a single mass flywheel...will last me forever now, and feel clutch is stronger.

Moral of my story, is because the 2.2 is such a great engine, I drive lazily, and dont change down when I should, I let the torque pull through in a higher gear.... maybe excessive torque causes the dual mass to chatter a bit and cause excessive wear, any thoughts?

happy xmas

 

at the moment i m undecided on where to get the smf and clutch from can you tell me where you bought yours and what were the fitting costs

 

Many reports have shown that torque from the std 2.2 is capable of wrecking an OEM clutch/DMF.

As you say, a lazy driving technique is going to be main cause of over stressing the components. Driving sympathetically is the best way to extend the life of your car but I doubt many folks are taught this nowadays.

It's a real shame that Honda didn't provide a beefy clutch with the 2.2 tho.

 

A mate of my Dad has a small garage and did it all for me... in total it was circa £900 (a bit expensive maybe). You may be able to find a SMD kit on ebay?

 

900quid fitted is still a good price. It's very time consuming doing one of these clutches and flywheels.

 

Have you recovered yet? :worms:

 

Why did TDi stop selling the CC clutch/flywheel kit? Too much hassle?