[Higgo8]

Loads of interesting stuff out there on this topic.. think when it comes to the cars first service , I will insist they change the transmission oil and get a sample.. any brass.. synchro.. any iron... we are talking tooth wear..
Seen something interesting on clutch arrangement.. a shuttle valve which I can only think is to slow down / restrict oil flow when changing gear; hence ease the synchro and gear mesh teeth.. only reason I can think of is to improve reliability.. but.. if there is contamination, does this stick I wander...
So far I don't recall having this issue..

 

[dweezle]

I've just googled fk8 gearbox issues, I never knew this was getting so big, the last I looked there was a few stateside reporting problems

 

[jasonstatus]

The Gearbox and paintwork issues are starting to put me off getting one!



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[Higgo8]

Makes me wander whether Honda learnt their lesson with the last gearbox issue or bury their head in the sand with the "characteristic' nonsense. 6 yrs it was pushed by honda loyalists before they released a TSB.
Otherwise, like the chap above.. puts people of purchasing one!!

 

[Farqui]

FlyinnG has just been sent a new CMC sans damper from Honda. Stay tuned...

 

[Higgo8]

FlyinnG has just been sent a new CMC sans damper from Honda. Stay tuned...

Oooo la la!!

Seems that Honda have learnt from their mistakes and are not burying their heads in the sand - If this comes to fruition, hats off to them...

This makes for interesting reading...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/11/issues-civic-type-r-honda-fixing-one/

Has anyone come across the issue with the rev match - seems there is a replacement harness for this...

 

[roadpointlimited]

some time my gearbox got stuck. help me

 

[Arsenal]

So the day has come and passed and not much has happened.

The head mechanic went for a testdrive with me and could reproduce the problem - but he put it that way: only when shifting slowly. He took a lot of time with me and explained me in detail how synchronization in the gearbox works and showed me how the gearbox is made up in the Type R. Gears 1 to 3 have double synchronization, all other gears have single synchronization (reverse included). He told me that there is an issue if you shift not fast enough that the gear and the synchronization ring will stop (with respect to another, they still turn) in such a way that the teeth are not aligned and you cannot select the gear smoothly anymore (or not at all).
He also told me that if the synchronization were off I wouldn't be able to shift into 4th at all at high rpm, but I haven't noticed anything along those lines and he tried that as well.
He will try with his own Type R if it happens when he shifts slowly - maybe he'll notice something there.
He also called techline and showed me all the service bulletins they were getting from Honda and so far there is no report for the Type R (there is one for the CRV automatic...)
Now I admit, I do shift slowly at times - so I couldn't really say if it was a problem otherwise.

It happened again, but that was on a rather slow down shift from 6th to 4th...

There is no grinding or crunching noise so I'm not worried too much. It's just a bit annoying.

On my drive back I had a blast through the twisty curves of the Black Forest and I still love this car.

 

[hondacivicnut]

So the day has come and passed and not much has happened.

The head mechanic went for a testdrive with me and could reproduce the problem - but he put it that way: only when shifting slowly. He took a lot of time with me and explained me in detail how synchronization in the gearbox works and showed me how the gearbox is made up in the Type R. Gears 1 to 3 have double synchronization, all other gears have single synchronization (reverse included). He told me that there is an issue if you shift not fast enough that the gear and the synchronization ring will stop (with respect to another, they still turn) in such a way that the teeth are not aligned and you cannot select the gear smoothly anymore (or not at all).
He also told me that if the synchronization were off I wouldn't be able to shift into 4th at all at high rpm, but I haven't noticed anything along those lines and he tried that as well.
He will try with his own Type R if it happens when he shifts slowly - maybe he'll notice something there.
He also called techline and showed me all the service bulletins they were getting from Honda and so far there is no report for the Type R (there is one for the CRV automatic...)
Now I admit, I do shift slowly at times - so I couldn't really say if it was a problem otherwise.

It happened again, but that was on a rather slow down shift from 6th to 4th...

There is no grinding or crunching noise so I'm not worried too much. It's just a bit annoying.

On my drive back I had a blast through the twisty curves of the Black Forest and I still love this car.

Fast or slow gear changes you SHOULD NOT be getting any issues. I don't believe what the Honda technician is saying.

 

[CLOVERLEAF159]

Fast or slow gear changes you SHOULD NOT be getting any issues. I don't believe what the Honda technician is saying.

I have to say, I have tried slow gear changes in my Fk2 and no problem there. I know it's a different car but I'm tending not to believe what's been said anyway and agree with hondacivicnut


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[Ron240]

My natural driving style is to change gear fairly leisurely and smoothly....I don't see the point in doing it any other way unless on rare occasions when wanting to use maximum performance.
First to second change usually takes quite firm pressure to engage. I don't see it as a problem the way it is just now, but it's certainly not the silky smooth action I would like.
All other gears engage smoother I would say.

 

[dweezle]

Not had any issues on mine, had a crunch last year but that could of been lazy clutching,
From what I've heard and read Honda are basically dismissing any issues on both the fk8 & fk2,
I was told one fk2 is in the middle of court proceedings due to Honda not warranting his gearbox, over 7000 euros they want to replace the box but strangely they said they will only replace 2nd & 3rd synchro under warranty
This warranty fiasco could seriously hurt Honda

 

[hondacivicnut]

I have to say, I have tried slow gear changes in my Fk2 and no problem there. I know it's a different car but I'm tending not to believe what's been said anyway and agree with hondacivicnut


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Exactly, it shouldn't matter how you change gear as long as the clutch pedal is fully down.

My DC2 R is like a rifle bolt in gear changes, super smooth and accurate. It doesn't matter on the speed I move the gear stick.

The FK8 should be exactly the same as this.

All Honda's I have driven have never had gear change issues.

Seems to me the Honda dealer is trying the 'fob the customer off' trick.

 

[Arsenal]

Yeh I'm probably too trusty.

Hunting a random fault is just so annoying...

 

[hondacivicnut]

Yeh I'm probably too trusty.

Hunting a random fault is just so annoying...

My advice, get a test drive in another FK8, if that doesn't do it, you need to kick off at the dealer.

 

[MarcBK08]

Exactly, it shouldn't matter how you change gear as long as the clutch pedal is fully down.

My DC2 R is like a rifle bolt in gear changes, super smooth and accurate. It doesn't matter on the speed I move the gear stick.

The FK8 should be exactly the same as this.

All Honda's I have driven have never had gear change issues.

Seems to me the Honda dealer is trying the 'fob the customer off' trick.

Yep with the clutch engaged you should be able to select the gear, the speed of the shift doesn't matter. No other dealership's locally that can give you a second opinion?

 

[Arsenal]

There is another one, but they screwed me over in the past - not going back to them. I'll have a look if there is a third one, but Honda is spread quite a bit here in Germany.

 

[hondacivicnut]

There is another one, but they screwed me over in the past - not going back to them. I'll have a look if there is a third one, but Honda is spread quite a bit here in Germany.

Screw them back over then! All you want is a test drive.

 

[RA108]

Fast or slow gear changes you SHOULD NOT be getting any issues. I don't believe what the Honda technician is saying.

I wouldn't agree that he's trying to fob him off. The technician appears to be telling him everything he knows about what it could be. It's not his fault there's no TSB or solution atm.

However, you shouldn't have to drive like a lunatic to make the gearbox work. That's a clear issue with the design if that is the case.

 

[hondacivicnut]

I wouldn't agree that he's trying to fob him off. The technician appears to be telling him everything he knows about what it could be. It's not his fault there's no TSB or solution atm.

However, you shouldn't have to drive like a lunatic to make the gearbox work. That's a clear issue with the design if that is the case.

The technician knows it's not right, he should be referring it back to Honda, TSB or not.

I understand what you're saying but I've experienced the same by a Honda technician when the clutch was slipping on my 2.2. Explained how it all works etc, slipping could be the adjuster sticking and it'll be alright etc.

Turned out the adjuster was on max and pressure plate was faulty. But they only did something when I forced the issue with Honda UK.