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Hi Jon/all,
on the way into work this morning , the engine management light went out !!! still did the scan and the OBD 2 reader came up with p1066 , fuel rail preasure higher than expected , and P1086,fuel rail preasure(frp) regulator malfunction. HELP !! lol should i still replace the filter again , as i am not sure if it is a genuine part , or would it be best to replace something else ?
Probably not the fuel filter then! But do still check if it's a genuine Honda/Denso one, as it may still cause problems in the future.

High fuel pressure problems are rare. This will probably be due to the regulator solenoid on the fuel pump, which 'throttles' the incoming fuel supply (under the control of the ECU) to achieve the required fuel rail pressure. Here's a link to a thread of mine on the TypeAccord website where I go through a problem I had a while ago that required replacement of this regulator... my problem was slightly different (it was an electrical fault with this regulator that I had) but if this regulator is sticking then high fuel pressure will result. I cannot think of any other explanation for high fuel pressure! Fuel Pump Solenoid Removal - Diesel Faults - TypeAccord

It may be worth removing your solenoid and cleaning the plunger (careful of the 'o'-ring seals). As mentioned in the link, DO NOT buy the entire fuel pump if this part is suspected to be faulty... although Honda do not sell this regulator as a separate item, Bosch (who make the pump assembly) DO sell it separately. And part numbers for your Civic will probably be different to my older Accord!
 
my wife has just told me that yesterday the traction control light , and the abs light flashed up as well, for a couple of minutes when the problem first started. really confused now ???
 
running lovely yesterday , got in it this morning started up , running really rough (banging coming from N/S ,sound like exhaust against floor ) then PGMI-FI Llight came up ? pulling my hair out now lol
 
running lovely yesterday , got in it this morning started up , running really rough (banging coming from N/S ,sound like exhaust against floor ) then PGMI-FI Llight came up ? pulling my hair out now lol
Mine did that when the fuel pump regulator was playing up! But many other things might also cause that symptom.

Do try to clean up the regulator piston when you get a chance. Did you read my TypeAccord thread?
 
Hi Jon, hope to get on this today, over the week end , had it not wanting to start for about 10 mins , first start of the morning ,(both sat and sun) to the point engine management light came up , then for the rest of the day ,it would be fine, (light went out after 2-3 hours,)would this lead you to the same conclusion as me , to check that regulator and the preasure valve ? really , really grateful for all your help/assistance with this.
 
Hi Jon, hope to get on this today, over the week end , had it not wanting to start for about 10 mins , first start of the morning ,(both sat and sun) to the point engine management light came up , then for the rest of the day ,it would be fine, (light went out after 2-3 hours,)would this lead you to the same conclusion as me , to check that regulator and the preasure valve ? really , really grateful for all your help/assistance with this.
I don't believe you have any problem with the fuel rail over-pressure relief valve (e.g. the original problem described by this thread), as this could not - on it's own - cause the rail pressure to be excessive, which appears to be the problem you are experiencing.

Assuming that the DTCs being registered whenever your engine management light comes on relate to high fuel rail pressure, then the most likely fault is with that regulator on the fuel pump (as per my TA thread). I would remove it and carefully clean up the piston on the end of the solenoid rod, plus check that the 'o'-rings are in good condition. If in doubt, replace it with one that has a matching Bosch part number.

The problem you are experiencing (and those DTCs being recorded) are rare... I have not heard of them being reported on any Honda website! However, there is not many fault conditions that can lead to high fuel rail pressure...
 
Hi Jon /All , finally managed to strip the fuel solenoid /reg , new 'o' rings etc , genuine honda filter fitted , then this week end. i was greated this morning with engine light on , with P1086, P088, AND P2017 !!! Do you please have any idea's where to go with this now, what to check next, or should i replace the solenoid? many thanks in advance.
 
Hi Jon /All , finally managed to strip the fuel solenoid /reg , new 'o' rings etc , genuine honda filter fitted , then this week end. i was greated this morning with engine light on , with P1086, P088, AND P2017 !!! Do you please have any idea's where to go with this now, what to check next, or should i replace the solenoid? many thanks in advance.
P0088 indicates excessive fuel rail pressure. I cannot think of anything other than the regulator solenoid that could cause this (other than just maybe an ECU fault, which shouldn't be considered until all other possibilities are ruled out).
As you know, P1086 is the code relating fuel pressure regulator malfunction.
So, with the evidence of those two fault codes, I would say the regulator is faulty and needs replacing. Without a doubt, this is what I would now do... you tried to clean the regulator, which was worth a shot, but unfortunately that wasn't enough.

The P2017 seems coincidental...
Description of OBD II Fault code P2017

INTAKE MANIFOLD RUNNER CONTROL (IMRC) VALVE POSITION SENSOR A CIRCUIT HIGH VOLTAGE
Possible failuer of OBD II Fault code P2017


  • IMRC Valve Position Sensor
  • IMRC Valve Position Sensor harness open
  • IMRC Valve Position Sensor ground harness open
 
Hi, I'm wondering if this could be the same fault I have. I own an 06 2.2icdti and recently after driving for around 30 minutes or so the car loses power under acceleration, mostly from 2nd to 3rd. Once I've pulled over the engine would be ticking over but I'd be getting nothing from the accelerator, it try's but it just won't rev. Now once I leave it sitting off for 5 minutes or so the car would start again and I could continue on my journey until it does it again.

Now the car won't start at all when it happens and I need to leave it for around 20 minutes until it will start again. I've had it down at my local garage ( it actually broke down right outside it ) so he actually saw the problem first hand but he couldn't find any faults. I'm no mechanic but it feels as tho the car isn't getting any/enough fuel when this happens and that's why I'm wondering if this could be my problem. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
Hi, I'm wondering if this could be the same fault I have. I own an 06 2.2icdti and recently after driving for around 30 minutes or so the car loses power under acceleration, mostly from 2nd to 3rd. Once I've pulled over the engine would be ticking over but I'd be getting nothing from the accelerator, it try's but it just won't rev. Now once I leave it sitting off for 5 minutes or so the car would start again and I could continue on my journey until it does it again.

Now the car won't start at all when it happens and I need to leave it for around 20 minutes until it will start again. I've had it down at my local garage ( it actually broke down right outside it ) so he actually saw the problem first hand but he couldn't find any faults. I'm no mechanic but it feels as tho the car isn't getting any/enough fuel when this happens and that's why I'm wondering if this could be my problem. Any help would be much appreciated.
I'm fairly sure that your problem has nothing to do with the other faults described in this thread. Your problem sounds like a restricted fuel filter to me (a fairly common problem), but odd that you have no engine warning light, which I'm sure you would have mentioned?

When was the filter last replaced, and was it definitely the correct (e.g. Denso) unit? These engines are very fussy about having the proper fuel filter and aftermarket substitutes often cause problems.
 
Hi, thanks for the reply. There's no warning lights no. The car was serviced in January but I'm not sure if the filter was replaced or not. How would I check that, as I said I'm no mechanic but willing to learn.
 
Hi, thanks for the reply. There's no warning lights no. The car was serviced in January but I'm not sure if the filter was replaced or not. How would I check that, as I said I'm no mechanic but willing to learn.
If they gave you a completed service schedule then it should've been recorded that they replaced it... or maybe call them and ask. Was it serviced by a Honda dealer? They are the only ones I'd trust to definitely fit the correct part, but even they don't always bother to replace the filter anymore!

If in doubt, you'll have to check it yourself... unlike my Accord I believe that it's hard to simply see if the correct filter is fitted without a fair bit of disassembly... http://www.civinfo.com/forum/how/56336-2-2-fuel-filter-change.html so I'm thinking that you should maybe buy the correct Denso filter first, then aim to replace the one you have.
 
If they gave you a completed service schedule then it should've been recorded that they replaced it... or maybe call them and ask. Was it serviced by a Honda dealer? They are the only ones I'd trust to definitely fit the correct part, but even they don't always bother to replace the filter anymore!

If in doubt, you'll have to check it yourself... unlike my Accord I believe that it's hard to simply see if the correct filter is fitted without a fair bit of disassembly... http://www.civinfo.com/forum/how/56336-2-2-fuel-filter-change.html so I'm thinking that you should maybe buy the correct Denso filter first, then aim to replace the one you have.
Cheers for the reply, it wasn't a honda dealer that serviced it, it was just my local garage. I was reading that thread after I posted earlier and it seems like a finicky job, i'm sure I could manage it tho. I've ordered a new denso fuel filter, it was only ÂŁ28 so I'll see if that helps things run smoother. I'm at the point now where I'm scared to actually take the car out as I don't know where or when it's gonna fail. So hopefully this is my problem and this fuel filter rectifies it.
 
Cheers for the reply, it wasn't a honda dealer that serviced it, it was just my local garage. I was reading that thread after I posted earlier and it seems like a finicky job, i'm sure I could manage it tho. I've ordered a new denso fuel filter, it was only ÂŁ28 so I'll see if that helps things run smoother. I'm at the point now where I'm scared to actually take the car out as I don't know where or when it's gonna fail. So hopefully this is my problem and this fuel filter rectifies it.
I can't promise you that replacing the FF will definitely fix this problem, but it needs to be ruled out before moving onto other possible faults. So fingers crossed!
 
I can't promise you that replacing the FF will definitely fix this problem, but it needs to be ruled out before moving onto other possible faults. So fingers crossed!
Yeah I know mate, it's all about fault finding. If it's not the issue I'll still have a shiny new fuel filter and it wasn't that expensive. I originally stated it was ÂŁ28 but once VAT and delivery got added it was just short of ÂŁ40, not too bad I guess. The two people I've spoken to about it seem to think it's a fuel problem too, one mentioned the fuel filter like yourself also. I've got someone coming out at the weekend to have a look at the car so I'll tell him to bring his tools and he can do the hard work lol.

Thanks for your input, I'll let you know how things go.
 
Hi Hedrush, how did it go at the week end? i still have the problems with mine, changed filter etc etc, now got the solenoid on order from germany!!! ( been waiting 2 weeks :-( ) hoping this will solve the issue's iv got .
 
just want to say a big thanks 2 Jon G for all his help with this. changed the rugulator solenoid 4 days ago and (touch wood lol ) it seems to have solved the problem.
to anyone who needs the part , i got it from bestparts uk , and to make you aware the service was terrible, took almost a month to arrive. on top of that i must have clicked the buy button twice , as 2 arrived and i have been charged double! and now they want to charge me ÂŁ15 to return it !!! i will hold on to it for 7 days and if anyone wants to buy it at cost price (ÂŁ111.00 )+ postage. then please contact me on mark.kennedy13@live.co.uk . i ma located in welwyn garden city hertfordshire for collection. Maybe i can help someone with a quick fix ? once again Jon , do not know what i would have done with out your input and knowledge.
 
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