IMO it depends on what you want from the car. When i bought my 2.2 6 weeks ago i could of had a Type R. I prefered the look and feel of the Type R- but i still bought the Type S.

The reason for that being I could make look like a Type R and remap it all for about £1000, that was the difference in insurance over 1 year. I then had to take into account tax, petrol costs etc etc

I chose the Type S because it was right for me, as I imagine you did at the time. Nobody goes out and buys a car without putting lots of thought into it.

The truth is if I had the Type R I would get used to the feel and the power after a year then where is there to go? Supercharging? £50k cars to give me an extra 0.7s 0-62? We will always want more from our cars.

If you drive a ferrari next week would you be saying 'well i can sell my house and get one....'?

 

they went no further so we could seriously though no the cts 2.2 is no match for the ctr in standard form, whether it can ever be is subjective. Yes the suspension will swap over but i would recommend eibachs, camber bolts and a FRS instead you will be astonished with the difference! A remap will get you closer but not close enough although you could argue the MPG difference is worth it. Im still getting 37mpg with all my mods and its used as it should be

 

IMO the Type S is desinged as a luke warm hatch

 

Aye Im seeing that, although I love it.

If you prefer the Type R just buy one.

Not worth trying to turn your type S into a type R, will cost more money trying to do so.

Indeed, I am 6 months into finance and knowing the way any dealer buys and sell I will be so far out of pocket it'll hurt!

Type S is a great car and practical.

Aye my feelings too.

Its a little frustrating though that its a top end Honda model like the TypeR and yet they have changed everything, blue dials, seats, sus, wheels...I dont see why Honda didnt just exchange the engines and be done...that would have been a wiser move Mr Honda! even to the point of having similar engine outputs...
That would defo have been a choice move Mr Honda, you should employ me!!!

 

Aye thats about right

 

I don't think the suspension is a swap over... Normally the diesel shocks and springs have to be able to carry a heavier load (heavier engine)! Also the same with Eibach lowering springs, there's a difference between springs for the diesel (FN3, FK3) and the petrol (FK2, FN1, FN2) engines...

EIBACH FEDERN HONDA Civic (FK, FN) 1.4 (FK1), 1.8 (FK2) (FN1), 2.0 Type R (FN2) 09.05 -

Fahrzeugtyp Civic (FK, FN)
Ausführung 1.4 (FK1), 1.8 (FK2) (FN1), 2.0 Type R (FN2)
Baujahr 09.05 -
VA-Last kg 980 kg
HA-Last kg 835 kg
TieferlegungVA 25 mm
TieferlegungHA 25 mm
Hinweise A, 18, 20
Gutachten T

EIBACH FEDERN HONDA Civic (FK, FN) 2.2 CTDi (FK3) (FN3) 09.05 -

Fahrzeugtyp Civic (FK, FN)
Ausführung 2.2 CTDi (FK3) (FN3)
Baujahr 09.05 -
VA-Last kg 1085 kg
HA-Last kg 835 kg
TieferlegungVA 25 mm
TieferlegungHA 25 mm
Hinweise A, 18, 20
Gutachten T

 

If you prefer the Type R just buy one.

Not worth trying to turn your type S into a type R, will cost more money trying to do so.

 

Also true ive spent 3k on mine and it cost as much as a type r in the first place 3k would buy a lot of petrol...... Nowhere near the modifying fun though theres nothing for the r that hasnt already been done my car however is unique so worth it in my eyes!

 

And jeremiah is right about the springs!

 

But the Type S will never be able to have the wave of noise from a Miltek & RSK as the Vtec comes in

 

id love a type r but with insurance and petrol after modding mine to as close as i can to a type r for about 1k over 4years i will still have about 3k

if your insurance is close and you dont do many miles go for a type r if you do a lot of miles make the most of the 2.2. since fitting type r springs i find the ride much better a lot sharper plus with the type r wheels i can feel the round more. never noticed a differnce in the clutch *** i drove a type r

i have the petrol so i have a nice induction noise. my 1.8 is the other part of things cheap to service for me cheaper insurance but not as gd mpg or performance in a straight line as the 2.2 there are 3 difference choices all different and designed for 3 different uses

 

I also test drove the type R before i settled for the Type S diesel. Much as i loved the looks, the growl, the performance i couldn't justify the cost of petrol, insurance etc. It's going to get worse too. Was a no brainer.
Irony is the Type R was slightly newer, slightly less mileage and slightly cheaper to buy than my 2.2.
No regrets whatsoever. Type S is a great car and practical.

 

why didnt Honda go further with the TypeS?

They did. It was called a type R!

 

Theres no chicken/egg story here like lol

 

The thing is that beneath being made to look like a Type R, there are so many mechanical differences that the two are almost like chalk and cheese.

Really Honda have been very smart. I mean go back and read all the reasons people have given for buying a Type S, insurance, petrol etc. Hence why Honda have built a warm hatch to fill the gap between the base model and the R.

I knew I would have tax/petrol/servicing costs but I knew that buying the car and I accepted it before buying it

 

I knew I would have tax/petrol/servicing costs but I knew that buying the car and I accepted it before buying it

i agree with Ed, you put alot of thought into buying a car, weighing up the pro's and con's , only you will know what suits you r needs and finances.
i had the 2,2 diesel, fantastic car, couldn't fault it for my needs,
but really fancied a type r and took the plunge and bought one, only thing i wish it had was the 5 seats for convenience. but hey i new it only had 4 when i bought it.

so its all about what suits your needs and your pocket.

good luck when you are eventually are in the position to change.

 

I traded in a rival hot hatch for a type s due to general running costs. 200bhp at your foot is great fun but the cost of petrol a week and the price of insurance and tax left me asking if it was really worth it. In the end i decided it wasnt. If petrol was cheaper would we all be driving type rs just now?

 

correct ! , the Type S is a good compromise however I do feel that the interior of the Type s "GT" model could be improved a little as standard by Honda. They could have live'nd up the GT model a little more with better seats and things like a gear stick gaiter .........I mean c'mon . I do love the car though i'ts just silly that we need to splash out a few quid here and there for silly mods like that........hey ho !

 

I've always felt like i took the middle road. I dont have the practicality of the 5 door, nor do i have the power of the type-R. It does have more comfort then the R and better handling then the 5 door.
Somethings are better, some are not.
The discount on my type-s, looks of the 3-door and massive difference in insurance and road tax made it a no brainer for me.
I would love to have a high revving N/A car when my type-s is due for replacement. But the current petrol prices are making me look more and more to turbo'd petrol cars.

 

The TypeS looks great & does all the things i want, if i want performance i have a Type R ..............................R1................byeeeeeeeeeeee

 

err thats a good point!

I have something similar...

 

very nice single swingarm Fire Storm some nice mods 2 -1 high level can, Harris rear setts ?, test rode one a couple of years ago good bike great sound, went for a 750 VFR in the end as i was doing a trip round europe, looking at a couple now on eBay

 

This one is up for sale cjh. I have posted in here before about it.
Gilles Footpegs, custom pipes yep, scorpion stubbies 2 of...

A little more here For Sale HONDA HONDA HONDA but not as you know it! - Civinfo with some tongue in cheek lol.
Im not sure I was serious about selling it at first, it needs to go to someone who knows about bikes.

But if you want to know more, give us a shout, I can finer the details mentioned in the Ad.

 

that's a very tidy bike of yours i am looking for something that i can tinker with use over the winter period and tour round on next year, i was thinking about a sort of home made Varadero, or getting a TDM they go for good money, fancy a crack at the enduro / sports touring type of bike, It would be a shame to hack yours about.

 

It would be a shame to hack about on youre right, I wouldnt sell it to you if that were the case lol
This is a full on job this one. Im sure the right buyer will come along.

Found this today in my Facebook...abso mental!!!!
YouTube - Black Devil - Moscow Ride on R1

 

I had a Type S 2.2 diesel for 2 1/2 years - fantastic car, but always hankered after the Type R interior and colour coding

Eventually succumbed a year ago and let me tell you the Type S was a much easier car to live with, I could drive it for hours without feeling tired - the Type R is hard work after an hour.

[Been driving for 8 hours today and my ears are still ringing from the noise!]

I cannot imagine why Honda haven't built a Type R with the diesel engine tuned to 180-200bhp - it would be a winner - I'd certainly buy one, particularly if they put an extra seat belt in the back!

 

I cannot imagine why Honda haven't built a Type R with the diesel engine

But then it wouldnt be a Type R.....

 

only 180bhp? thats not even trying!

 

I've just got myself a Civic Type S GT diesel in Cerulean Blue (yes,the Jazz colour!!) and tbh, to me, its the best car in the Civic range - FOR ME.

It has the performance and the flexibility that suits what I want/need. Yes, the Type R goes like stink but for my 3 mile ride to work, it really is a bit too harsh a ride.

Cerulean blue, yes, but not as bad as it sounds lol...

 

Just the wheeltrims eh

I am finding the S a good allrounder.
As it happens the Type R I went to see was sold just before I got there, and no one else has the one I was looking for. The logistics behind dealership trading, despite only having my S for 5 months the cost of trade or swap is just too much. (you would think a dealer could be a little more caring)
I think a remap and some springs will satisfy me at some point

 

oh yes, I forgot that the R in Type R stood for Rev til you find some power - that wouldn't apply to the diesel at all, so you are right it couldn't possibly qualify for the type R monikker. opcorn2:

 

Deciding between Type-S and Type-R myself and this made me chuckle