Not really,but i can check tonight when i get home from work and let you know.

 

Thanks fidsey, seen quite a few posts on the net regarding rising oil levels and oil dilution just wondered if anyone i the uk had these symptoms with their engines

 

Sorry i didnt manage to check the oil level tonight as sods law the wife has gone out to her sisters and not back yet so i will report back tomorrow. I have also read about this too but im not too sure weather they have a gpf fitted to those just like the diesels with their dpf system.

 

I've been keeping a weekly eye on mine. No increase in level. Although when it was colder, and after a week of short trips the oil did smell of petrol. Since then all my trips have been considerably longer.

 

Cant say mine has gone up but it does small a bit of fuel

 

I had my 1.5 Turbo Sport new in June 2018. I find it difficult to get a true oil level reading on the plastic section of the dipstick.

I find the best way to check the oil level is to let the car stand level over night and check the level first thing in the morning. You need to be quick to withdraw the dipstick and hold it horizontal as the 0-20 oil is so thin its very easy to get an inaccurate level reading.

After the first 2,600 miles, my car had used about a tea cup full of oil. Since topping the oil level up the level has remained constant.

 

At first annual service of my manual 1.5 Turbo Prestige at 6125 miles I had the oil analysed by Millers for about £30. Results showed that due to wear the oil was due a change & fuel dilution at 0.8% was at cautionary limit. Honda refused to divulge even to dealer what oil is used on production line! However, dealer uses Castrol H (Honda) Professional 0W20. The dealer forgot to rest the oil indicator & this showed 3900 more miles. I did a reset & it then showed 12500 miles. However, it would appear that I need to have the oil changed about every 6000 miles & will have another analysis done next year.

 

Heard about oil analysis before but I tought it was an industry thing and not a motorist thing, so what do you do take a sample send it away and wait for the results, then change if required? I thought thats what the oil monitor was for? I must admit this whole dilution thing is a bit of a worry considering how much we pay for Hondas.

 

Mine is just below max so would say about right, mine does smell a bit of petrol but i dont think it smells any different to my old civic 1.5 mb3.

 

We now have countless owners sniffing their oil:surprise:

 

It used to be glue when I was a kid :grin2:

 

Fuel dilution is present on most modern motor vehicles, and is worsened when there is no load put on the engine for long periods of time.. I have experienced this on Kubota diesel engines first hand..
What the permissible levels are before it affects the lubricity of the oil that will harm the engine - that's the info we need to know - but most engine manufacturer's hold onto this like a sacred scroll..

 

Definitely prefer petrol to other options!!

I've noticed a sort-of petrol-like smell in / around the engine bay and particularly when 'doing the weekly check' - which normally is weekly as well!
Over the 1 year I've had it, I've not noticed any real decrease / increase in oil, the water is stable, brake / clutch is fine, and nothing was mentioned at the service.

The one good thing with the service .... that damned service indicator light's gone out now!!

Al.

 

Sniffed mine again a couple of days ago..... sadly I didnt get high but now it is a normal oil smell... :hmmmm:

 

https://driving.ca/honda/auto-news/news/software-update-will-fix-honda-cr-v-and-civic-problems

Is it time we all started banging the drum with Honda UK, Canada are getting a fix and the US are reported as hopefully getting the same so what are Honda UK doing?

 

I can see the T-shirts now ..... Honda, The power of sniffing oil

 

Looks like Honda are looking after their North American and Canadian customers a lot better than they do here.

 

Certainly looks that way, makes me feel as though my loyalty is not warranted so maybe the hard earnt cash in my wallet will find a different home in the future when I buy another new car. We done Honda I applaud you market leading customer service !!

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Has the 10G got a Petrol Particulate Filter? I know all petrol motors will have one pretty soon but not sure if the 10G has at the moment. A lot of short journeys are not good for particulate filters and if you turn it off during a regeneration it dumps fuel in the Oil, it does on Diesel ones anyway. I'm fortunate that my commute is 30 mile each way so have never noticed my Oil level going up.

 

Serious question for once: Is this limited only to the 1.5L Vtec engine, or are the chaps overseas saying it is also on the 2L engine

 

Last year they didn't. This year they do. Have particulate filters that is. You'll also notice that they've changed the spec with a revised lower horse power. I'm assuming the filter saps some power due to increased exhaust restrictions?

So far I've only read the oil dilution issue in relation to the new 1.5. The 2L is an older modified design.

 

GPF is the proper term for the particulate filter, it differs from a DPF in the fact that petrol runs much hotter burns cleaner ie less soot and they suffer far less from problems than diesels so.personally I am not worried by it.

The 2 litre is an NA engine (in the states and canada) with no turbo it is also an indirect injection engine not a direct injection like the 1.5 so therefore does not suffer from oil dilution. With regards the 2.0 litre engine in the type r as far as I am aware although I could be wrong, that is direct injection with turbo but I have not heard any reports of dilution in this engine.

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Watched a few youtubes on this subject. Discussing 2018/19 models. One bloke with outside temp of 46f filmed his engine temp gauge drop when A/C switched on, after thirty minutes still not at operating temp and also complained of fuel smell in oil which got into Cabin during drive plus oil on dipstick higher than he liked. He'd taken it in to Honda who said its fine, operating as intended.


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He'd taken it in to Honda who said its fine, operating as intended.

Literally all my dealer says when I take it in for ongoing issues im trying to get resolved (that others have managed to get their dealers to fix)

 

Honda are not being consistent on this issue, some parts of the world they admit the problem and fix it i.e. China and Canada with a fix also being discussed for the States. Yet in the UK my complaint was well and truly recieved with go away there is no problem, it does not exist, we have had no reports of it from dealers and we are not doing anything about it so basically go away! If I knew Honda were going to treat me like this I would have gone past my dealership and taken my money elsewhere. Whilst the car is impressive I think the engineering may not have been what it once was- just my opinion I could be wrong. The main thing that has seriously put me off buying another Honda is the customer service from Honda UK which is a shame as I am currently looking to replace my wifes Yaris and was going to buy a Jazz but after this I am looking elsewhere and Honda has gone from top to bottom of the list. Own goal scored there Honda UK !!!!

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Paddy, seen that video the same guy has also posted quite a few videos about the civic including type r.

I agree with what he says, but Honda UK are still sticking their head in the sand in the face of overwhelming evidence...... its their business that has the potential to suffer...... their choice. In my opinion I think they are aware and will fix engines for cars that are now in production on the quiet, but I suspect current owners such as you and I, may and I use the word may see a fix but it will only be when they think their reputation will suffer in the UK and Europe as could cost them a fair penny to fix.

Like I said its just an opinion. I also personnaly think that the more people put pressure on Honda UK by taking the time to email in with this problem the more chance we have of gettting a fix.