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Was just scrolling through the thread titles which all looked quite negative. So here is a thread to say how great and happy we are wtih this machine.
I've only had it 1 week but I love it completely.
Having come from a long line of high performance hondas, it's great to be in a car that does everything so well. An all round package, great comfort, economy, performance and handling. It's all so good for a daily driver. Perfectly balanced.

I was the last of the enthusiast drivers, hardcore petrol manual evangelist but I absolutely love pulling away from standstill with no clutch in absolute silence.

Sing your praises here folks!
 
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I must admit that of all the cars I've owned, and it's dozens, my e:hev Jazz is the clear winner in the driveability and technology areas. The only area where it can be beaten is suspension where my Xantias and IS200 were better, more supple. But, the Jazz suspension is far better than any of my previous 3 Civics.

I can only imagine the Civic e:hev is in the same or better league.
 
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I know it was only a short journey of 6 miles after doing my first fill up but this did make me smile!
So I have now completed my first tank. 406 miles on 34.98 l which gives 52.7mpg. I don't think that was too bad overall, no idea how it was treated for the 8 miles before I picked it up. The gauge showed 54.1mpg so slightly higher reading but that's normal on most cars.
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It's now desperate for its first wash! 😎
 
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I think the recent news item regarding heavy EV's is aimed at the likes of Tesla that are probably close to a couple of tons.

Honda did say the Jazz chassis had to be strengthened with more tensile steel to accommodate the extra battery weight. There was an additional statement that this had helped make the suspension more pliant, and it shows, as my Jazz rides better and quieter over the bumps that any of my previous 3 Civics did.
 
#14 ·
I've seen a few on the road now and i do like the styling, the back end is certainly much better than my 10 gen, the interior and tech seems good too with decent perf and economy, I will have to try one at some point but they are out of my price range, my 17 reg 10th gen has only done 39k miles as I don't do high mileage and I'm very happy with it, I recently drove to Butlins Minehead from the Midlands and av 52 mpg with A/C on most of the time and hitting some traffic jams, I certainly will be keeping it for a while yet.
 
#15 ·
Going forward the 11th gen is something I would look at as a compromise as it has green credentials without having to plug in to charge and has a rev counter with fake 'gear' engine change up sounds, me been a petrol head who enjoys hearing an engine and exhaust sounds, I certainly won't be getting a plug in EV and driving in silence.
 
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Picked the car up on Saturday, driven about 180 miles and mpg is about 59 at the moment so I'm happy about that. I did a very short trip of about 4 miles and it did 95 mpg, it was mostly on a down slope bit I thought that can't be righ and it was broken lol.

The car feels amazing to drive, very planted and the view makes you feel one with the car, cockpit and the road. The low roof line also feels like your low to the road and cosy inside but also there is tons of room to stretch about. Pulling away from junctions, overtaking, roundabouts and such is very clean and responsive, feels great.
You can feel the contact and grip with the road, not tried sport mode really yet. The car is very quite to my ears and the car just soaks up the road and bumps. I can only imagine how a type R would feel around a track.

Inside feels and looks nice but there are a few cheaper looking bits to some panels, I also think the plain design of the dash can also make it feel simplistic but I like the look. A few of the bits with the seats at the side look like they have just been sliced off near the center console and felt has been stuck there, very odd looking. Also I'm not too sure how the pleather will hold up on the wheel especially and the seats.

Fitted a front and rear dash cam, was a bit of a pain but not too bad.

Set up wireless android auto, all works well, always connects first time. Android auto has a slight delay but nothing to care about. A bit of a shame that the regen only stays on in sport mode, but in normal it would of made sense as to achieve better fuel efficiency and less wear on parts.

I noticed the auto high beam shows a blue light when it becomes active but when it then goes brighter it doesn't change to a different icon, would of been nice to have more indication of what's happening, I know I can see the lights going brighter but I was constantly thinking if I'm blinding others.

All aids have worked brilliantly so far, hardly had to do anything on the way home from the dealers, lane keep assist with adaptive cruise and following works so good and it basically drives itself.

That's as much as I've noticed so far, hope it gets better and better.

I think around the £35000 price point it's about right but going closer to £41000 is a bit of a stretch possibly, time will tell with how good it is in years to come.

Oh and I think all the doors should of had ambient lighting as standard on the glossy black bits, a missed opportunity for a better look and I'm sure it wouldn't of cosr them that much.
 
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#19 ·
Yes, the power meter, during driving, works like the recommended phone battery charging routine going from about 25% to 85%, then runs on battery until back down to 25% then the engine kicks in to get it back to 85% and so the cycle continues.

And, also correct that the e:hev HV battery is considerably smaller and lighter than a full EV battery that is very heavy
 
#23 ·
No, that's not the power meter. The power meter looks on the face of it like a rev meter but actually shows the amount of power the motor is using. So, just cruising it's usually about 10-20%. If you put your foot flat down, it goes to 100% etc.

Also, the way you describe that the way the battery is charged and drawn on is incorrect. It's nowhere near as fixed as what you say. You can have only, say 30% charge in the battery but if conditions are right the car will run in battery only mode. It will charge up if it goes right down, but into the mix you can also throw in motor braking regeneration, which you can directly control with the paddles. You quickly learn that using this to full advantage gives you 'free' electric miles.
 
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Ehev 1.1kwh battery weight I saw quoted as 36kg. Is this fn3 mentioned actually the fn2 type r? I think theres a little typo going on there. Iirc the fn3 is the 2.2 diesel of the same shape.
I have to say, as someone who has just come from 10 years in a dc5 integra type r, the civic handles well, but not type r well. But it's the excellent overall balance that makes it so special. You trade the handling for comfort and it's a fantastic all round compromise. I find it has a lot of body roll, and the seats are too wide for me, so I slide around if I attempt to corner at speed. Which I just generally don't, it's much more fun trying to maximise momentum and efficiency 😎
 
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#25 ·
On the Jazz e:hev the power/battery meter never goes below 3 bars because when it gets to 3 bars the engine kicks in until it gets to 7 bars then the engine stops.

As I drive along it's moving between 3 and 7 bars regular as clockwork.

I'm surprised the Civic methodology is different
 
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#26 ·
That's my experience, never seen it below 3 bars and only seen it full a couple of times and not for very long. Mine tends to hovver around 3-4-5 (out of 10 is it?) most of the time. My worst drive so far was a 5 mile trip where it decided to fully charge the battery which took most of the way so I only got 48.5mpg.
 
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#29 ·
My Jazz is still seamless

But, at just over 2 years old and not yet on 4,000 miles it's still running in

Took it out Sun morning for a half hour run just to charge the HV battery, enjoyed every mile


What is concerning is the reports I'm seeing about the 11G having 'sticky steering' especially at motorway speeds. Posted as feeling dangerous. Seems to affect both UK and US models.
Honda contacted who are being posted as not interested, whilst I've seen a couple of posts about a new steering rack being fitted and cured it.
 
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#35 ·
Below 60kph/40mph there`s no way the engine drives directly the wheels. I guess what you were seeing was when the engine was sending electricity directly to the electric motor. When the clutch engages (so the engine is directly linked to the wheels) it is visible on the Power Delivery display when it actually does (a small gear appears between the engine and the wheels).
 
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#44 ·
I always thought the engine only fires up to charge the battery when required. The vast majority of the time it's electric drive only, unless you floor the throttle then it's electric drive with engine assist.

I've never heard of engine only drive before.

On my Jazz, on the motorway for example, it's electric drive only, till the battery bars go down to 3. Then the engine kicks in to charge the battery up to 7 bars then the engine cuts out. But, even with the engine running, it's still electric drive.
 
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