Gordon brown is a complete arse and will be voted out. He was qouted the other day as saying high fuel prices will benefit drivers in the long run. These green issues are taking over everyday life and will make no impact when you have massive countries like china etc pumping out loads more co2 than a small island like us. I am sick to death of labour taxing us to bits. GET THEM OUT NOW!!!!

 

At last somebody talking sense

 

Labour are not interested in so called Climate Change, they just want tax revenue that makes no difference to CO2 levels. If they really wanted to cut CO2, they would give people grants to help them change their lives to become more efficient.

We have had Climate Change before anyway, what about the Ice Age, warmer before it and then after, its a natural process.

 

Labour are not interested in so called Climate Change, they just want tax revenue that makes no difference to CO2 levels. If they really wanted to cut CO2, they would give people grants to help them change their lives to become more efficient.

We have had Climate Change before anyway, what about the Ice Age, warmer before it and then after, its a natural process.

100% agree with your last comment!

 

We already knew that this was a coming, its been done to death on here. You may wish to add your comments to the other threads before another riot is caused

 

Fair comment, Angie. I posted my comments following new figures released by Angela Eagle, Exchequer Secretary, yesterday. I'm sure the disclosures will be in all the papers today.

 

Thats what ALL the scientific research that I've read states, that it is simply the planets homeostatic balance, the planet cools itself naturally anyways no matter how hot it gets the planets counteracts it, with volcanoes that release dust upwards shielding us from the heat of the sun, like tinting windows, it also relases gases and cools it's centre to take change into account (clever old thing the planet). So it's nothing to do with us, there is no Green house effect, its all just postulated crap (and any greenpeace twonk who says otherwise should read the scientific journals that show there is no scientific evidence for GW whatsoever). As said, the ice caps melted some time ago, and then we had something called the ice age, then we've had, in the grand scheme of things a few seconds of temperate weather, sure it'll get hotter, but not too extreme, and if it does, hah, by then we'll all be long gone (it'll take another 1000 years or so...... ).

Still, anyways, Gordon Brown, Font of all knowledge.....Fuel prices and the rise in the ocst of living is.........OUR FAULTS for wasting food........says the guy who then attended an 8 course banquet........hmmm wonder how little that fat pig wasted, seems to have got his snout everywhere else, why not in the proverbial trough.

ATB,
Tom (phew rant over.....)

 

This all because there will be global carbon tax. Global Warming due to co2, now 4000 years ago co2 levels were 14times what they are now. The world mean tempreture hasnt risen since 1999. Al Gore charges $500,000 for one of his talks. He also in up to his neck in the carbon capture technoligy, & he publicly says i dont make money from this. In the 1970s all the talk was of global cooling. Climate change is real but due to sun spots, google this .

 

Al Gore charges $500,000 for one of his talks. He also in up to his neck in the carbon capture technoligy, & he publicly says i dont make money from this.

And it was also reported a year or so back that his own home uses as much power as a small village!!!

 

Unknownsoldier ...Homeostic balance , Postulated crap , ......Illegalhunter ....4000 years ago co2 14 times what they are now ....Woooh ...Started the day chillin man ....theres heavy then theres ooovvverweight ....Im sure your stats are correct ....Where would we be without them ... but i can tell you as if you need informing .. you get rid of one party because of there policies and inability to grasp reality ....If you wait 5 minutes there will be another one along promising all sorts of s#/t .....Now a promise dont mean nothin till its delivered ...So im afraid like it or not.... Those days of days of yore and fields of ambrosia are just a cool memory ....Like the man said ....If you cant remember the 60s you wernt there ...

 

Unknownsoldier ...Homeostic balance , Postulated crap , ......Illegalhunter ....4000 years ago co2 14 times what they are now ....Woooh ...Started the day chillin man ....theres heavy then theres ooovvverweight ....Im sure your stats are correct ....Where would we be without them ... but i can tell you as if you need informing .. you get rid of one party because of there policies and inability to grasp reality ....If you wait 5 minutes there will be another one along promising all sorts of s#/t .....Now a promise dont mean nothin till its delivered ...So im afraid like it or not.... Those days of days of yore and fields of ambrosia are just a cool memory ....Like the man said ....If you cant remember the 60s you wernt there ...

whatsup :?: fell off your STEEL HORSE

 

Think that it`s seen as politically ok to tax the perceived noxious emmisions of the motorised vehicle no matter what party are in power or how effiecent the internal combustion engine has become (i could go on ad infernitum on this subject )....roll on the crz hybrid ( just wished someone would develop a diesel hybrid -electric acceleration and diesel torque would make an unbeatable combo IMHO)

 

Nonumpty ...Way to cool for that ....Leave that to the novices and wannabees ....As regards whatsup man .....RE previous posts.... you can go on tv , you can go on a forum , you can go to the press , you can go go tell anyone who will listen ...Thats us right ..... But unless your the man in charge of runnin this green and pleasant land ....you aint gona change jack S;/t ...so whats the point in stressin .....Every day above ground is a good day ...ON A STEEL HORSE I RIDE

 

£300 tax for a CTR nex year... cant wait. F*@K 'em im meltin the ice caps and paying for them

 

Hot topic on every forum at the moment it would seem. This comment has been posted on a Type R forum and goes excatly like this

'The Labour Party have today changed their emblem from a rose to a condom as it more accurately reflects their political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives a false sense of security while you are actually being f*****'

 

This is nothing new and as far as i've heard they are merely confirming what was presented in the budget back in march.

 

Whats the civic diesel tax going up to?

 

It's in the wiki (as ever): VED rates - Civinfo Wiki

 

2.2 diesel currently in band C 121-150 g/km @ £120/year
changes to
Band E 131-140 g/km @ £110 2009/2010 and £115 2010+

a reduction

 

Type S missing from Wiki

 

No its not, its listed as the first one in the 2.2's as 2.2 i-CTDi S Manual

 

Why you bailing out Robbie...get yourself a Prius

 

I don't get that different models of the same car with the same engine produce different C02???? Surely a 1.8 I-Vtec is the same whatever car it's in????

Tom

 

Some cars have wider tyres, which increases the fuel consumption and CO2 rate (due to greater wind resistance). Likewise the I-shift gearbox makes a difference too.

 

Pottsy,

I see, however surely the I-shift shouldn't make much difference to C02 output should it, as they claim to keep MPG etc. constant as it chooses the gear for you and doesn't use a heavy torque converter....... I see what you mean on the tyres etc. etc..... would you think the C02 given out by the Type S compared to the GT would differ with all the options like glass toof etc. adding excess weight?????


ATB,
Tom

 

Road tax loophole saves you £70

This may already have been posted.

Parker’s advises anyone with a band F car, who is renewing their road tax before mid-September, to tax their car for six months.
That means you’ll have to re-new your car tax by March 2009 – before next year’s higher charges come into force.
You'll be entitled to get 12 months tax for £210, rather than the new rate of £300 - and make a £70 saving.


Road tax loophole saves you £70 - Parker's

 

This may already have been posted.

Parker’s advises anyone with a band F car, who is renewing their road tax before mid-September, to tax their car for six months.
That means you’ll have to re-new your car tax by March 2009 – before next year’s higher charges come into force.
You'll be entitled to get 12 months tax for £210, rather than the new rate of £300 - and make a £70 saving.


Road tax loophole saves you £70 - Parker's

Suprised they call it a loophole, its just common sense! It would only be a loop hole if you could make this saving after the changes!!

 

Brm Brm

I like this Honda Civic Forum.

 

I like this Honda Civic Forum.

Global warming posts moved to here: http://www.civinfo.com/forum/any-non-civic-chat-here-please/15996-global-warming.html

 

I dunno Pottsy. I think you should have moved it to 'Bugs, Faults and Irritations'!!

 

My sentiments exacly Crackers ,hope thats not short for undercrackers...

 

Maybe I could answer that if I knew what the hell you were talking about...

 

People who don't expect us to be paying £2,-- a litre fuel before the year is out, or some serious road tax on a performance car are living somewhere over the rainbow. I'm sorry, but how naive are you guys? This trend has been steadily developing since at least 2003.

 

agree 100% and thats from a scot, never voted tory in my life but that arse has to go, mind you he's kicking himself out anyway, could not run a sweety shop, miff

 

was replying to ChillTypeR comments on gordon brown

 

But is CO2 the correct measure? Surely it should be based on dust to dust figures, that show hybrid cars are worse for the enviroment due to the nickel in the batteries.

The goverment needs money and it will get it one way or the other - it is just easier to label it as green tax - I am tempted to get on my mighty soap box on this one, but instead I am going to take a deep breath and have a cup of tea as it will not change ****.