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SatNav clock is now in year 2002 (Merged)

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#1 · (Edited)
Goodnight. I have a problem with the clock of my sat nav.

From today I have a problem that does not synchronize the clock of the sat nav and clock of the car. I searched the forum and saw a recurring problem, but it is different from mine.

My problem is in the date of the sat nav, I don't know why it has the date of 05/20/2002. Why is the satellite time wrong?

For this reason, it is not synchronized with the car clock. If I go into a garage where there is no satellite signal, I can change the time in the secret menu. At that time, it synchronizes the clock with the car's clock. All work well. But once I go out to the street and catch a signal, it changes to the date of 2002.

Is someone having the same problem? If I am alone, what is the module that is failing? the dvd or the radio module where are the controls? I put some photos for you to see.

I NEED HELP!!!

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#2 ·
Google translate says;

Goodnight. I have a problem with the time of my sat nav.

As of today I have a problem that does not synchronize the time of the browser with that of the car. I searched the forum and saw a recurring problem, but it is different from mine.

My problem is in the time of the satellite navigation, I don't know why it has the date of 05/20/2002. Why is the satellite time wrong?

For this reason, it is not synchronized with the car clock. If I go into a garage where there is no satellite signal, I can change the time in the secret menu. At that time, synchronize the time with the car's time. But once I go out on the street and catch a signal, it changes to the date of 2002.

is someone having the same problem? If I am alone, what is the module that is failing? the dvd or the radio module where are the controls? I put some photos for you to see.
 
#109 ·
Dadi di Google Translate;

Buona notte. Ho un problema con l'ora del mio navigatore satellitare.

Ad oggi ho un problema che non sincronizza l'ora del browser con quella dell'auto. Ho cercato nel forum e ho visto un problema ricorrente, ma è diverso dal mio.

Il mio problema è nell'orario della navigazione satellitare, non così perchè ha la data del 20/05/2002. Perché l'ora del satellite è sbagliata?

Per questo motivo non è sincronizzato con l'orologio dell'auto. Se entro in un garage dove non c'è il segnale satellitare, posso cambiare l'ora nel menu segreto. A quel punto, sincronizzare l'ora con l'ora dell'auto. Ma una volta che esco per strada e prendo un segnale, cambia alla data del 2002.

qualcuno ha lo stesso problema? Se sono solo, qual è il modulo che non funziona? il dvd o il modulo radio dove sono i comandi? Ho messo delle foto per vedere.
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Magicamente, ieri il Sistema NAVI è tornato a funzionare !

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#4 ·
I have exactly the same issue here in the UK; the date is set to the same as yours and the time is an hour ahead. Must be an issue with the GPS system as a whole? I guess we'll just have to wait a few days and see if it corrects itself 🤷‍♂️
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#5 · (Edited)
I think i know what is the problem. Our sat nav must have a system of 10bits (1024values). Each value is one week. 1024 values are 7168days. I saw this article in Spanish that talks about the problem and just adding the dates comes out yesterday, Monday 03/01/2022.

Article in spanish

So our system can synchronize the time with the satellites for those 7168 days. After that date (03/01/2022) our gps are out of date with respect to the satellites and I understand that it goes back to the first registration date (20/05/2002) What the f..k!

Here the calculations:

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I understand that it is a Honda or Alpine problem but difficult to solve. All of us who have sat nav the same thing happens to us, I understand that during these days more people will report the problem.

I think there is little we can do, it is a computer architecture problem.

Problems with this:

1-
The car clock may not be on the correct time. This can be solved by setting or removing summer time from the settings.
2-When programming the GPS instead of setting the arrival time, since the car does not know what time it is, it will set the arrival time at the destination (although in the configuration we have the arrival time set)
3-When changing the summer time or going to another country, we lose the automation of the time change that our sat navs offered us.
4-If we ask the time the system is by voice it will always tell us "ZERO"

Although they are minor things, to me personally it bothers me a lot. Someone was stupid knowing that our sat navs had an expiration date and did nothing to solve it (I don't know if honda or alpine). And have in some case 13 years or less of service.

I do not know if an action is possible to protest against honda and that they can correct this problem (I do not think that it can be done by software)
 
#12 ·
Ah this has been driving me mad the past couple of days! I suspected some sort of Y2K22 issue and this confirms it. Some more info from Honda here: Clock Faults - Official Honda Responses

We have escalated the NAVI Clock Issue to our Engineering Team and they have informed us that you will experience issue from Jan 2022 thru August 2022 and then it will auto-correct. Please be assured that we will continue to monitor this and will advise you if a fix is available before that time.

We have just received some more information regarding this and were advised that the Honda technical department are currently working on this.

Once there is a fix for this issue Honda authorized dealers will be made aware of it and will be able to assist with this at that point.

As such it would be best to check with your local Honda authorized dealer for any updates as they would have the latest information for this and will be able to assist once the fix is released.

They can also contact the Honda technical department for additional assistance with this if necessary.
 
#13 ·
I saw the subject of August in the crv forum that they had told the acura people about. sounds weird. That it is solved only in August is not credible because it is a 10-bit limitation. that by firware they change the date from 2002 to 2022 is another thing. but in 19 years there will be the same problem. will be very unproblematic by 2030, that's true
 
#15 ·
I was thinking this as the last GPS week rollover should have been in 2019, unless Honda is doing something weird in their software (not surprising) it sounds more like the number storage issue like the one mentioned in @Kremmen's reply above. However I'm not quite sure why this issue would resolve itself in August.
 
#14 ·
Another explanation :

“It hasn’t been in the news much but yesterday the date was written by many computers as 2201010001 (YYMMDDHHMM).” said this 2007 Honda CR-V owner.

Many older computers that store the date this way cannot handle any number bigger than 2147483647, so as soon as the year began with a 22, it fails and can no longer register the date/time correctly.
 
#20 ·
Following as my 2010 Civic EX GT clock was an hour out at the beginning of this year, disconnected battery and now clock is completely screwed as it started upon power up it went to 01:00. So I am thinking that a temporary workaround will be to disconnect battery at this time.

Poking around the Sat NAV menu I did look at clock adjustment but nothing seemed to change clock, although WET Time is always showing 00:00 (not sure what this is).
 
#22 · (Edited)
It marks you 00:00 because it does not synchronize with the sat nav. There It must put the time of sat nav. If you want to set the clock on your car:

1-go to a covered parking.
2-Turn off the car.
3-Put the contact
4-Enter the secret menu with the 3 buttons at the same time (map + menu + exit)
5-set the clock and date of the sat nav manually in send gps time.
6-Exit the secret menu and enter the configuration clock setting in the normal menu. If the time appears instead of 00:00, try to set the time to the correct one. If it doesn't work, turn off and put the contact back on. At some moment the time has to appear instead of 00:00
7-remove the key from the ignition, close and open the car and check the time again.
8-surely when you go out the clock changes the time. You will have to set or remove summer time. I have deactivated the automatic time slot.

That way I have the correct hira in the car.
 
#26 ·
The clock on my 08 ex model suddenly went an hour forward and can't be changed and as it has the satnav should be automatic.
This then came up on the news feed and I'm wondering if it's the problem.
Honda glitch leaves clocks in older cars stuck 20 years in the past Honda glitch leaves clocks in older cars stuck 20 years in the past via https://dailym.ai/android
I have the same problem, I noticed it today, then i tried to set time manually but nothing is changed. I hope it can be fixed.
 
#31 ·
Hi all, just adding my self into this mix. I have a Honda Civic 2007 that I did the hard reset of the clock by removing the battery for 1 hour and it is not updating. When looking in the clock setting on the sat Nov mine also says wet 00:00. Also the same in the diagnostic menu Send GPS time has a year of 2002. I hope honda role out a fix for this.
 
#33 ·
Hi,
waiting a solution to fix it, i have a question:
if i disconnect the battery for charging it, what happens when i reconnect it?

1) the clock start at 1:00 and will no longer synchronize
2) the clock will synchronize only with an hour ahead (right minutes, as it is now)

i hope in the case n.2, thanks in advanced.
 
#34 ·
Hi,
waiting a solution to fix it, i have a question:
if i disconnect the battery for charging it, what happens when i reconnect it?

1) the clock start at 1:00 and will no longer synchronize
2) the clock will synchronize only with an hour ahead (right minutes, as it is now)

i hope in the case n.2, thanks in advanced.
So I disconnected by battery for an hour and when i connected it back to the car the clock started at 1:00 and no longer syncs. simply no.1. sorry for the bad news.
 
#37 ·
Hi all,

So my car has developed a weird fault on the last week or so? (Well thats when I noticed it anyhow)

I have an 07 mk8 2.2 with built in GPS, recently the time that is displayed on the little side screen is wrong and as far as I'm aware this is controlled by the GPS?

I have tried to alter the time settings through the GPS settings but it does absolutely nothing. The only work around I can think of is to disconnect the battery and at just before 01:00 (as this is what time the clock resets to) reconnect the battery.

GPS seems to work fine as it still routes me and I have checked that it is connected to satellites through the back menu.

Any thoughts? Anyone experienced anything like this?

Cheers
 
#40 ·
Confirm I'm having the same issue with UK CR-V 2009 with satnav.
Cheesed off because I rely on the clock in the car. A crappy workaround is to select 'send GPS time' from the engineer/secret menu - the date is all wrong (May 2002) but at least the displayed time is correct whilst ever you remain in the screen....like I said, crappy workaround.....until 'August' (if you believe that, ho ho)