Thanks Pottsy, very useful, you could have opened Pandora's box here. Is the list of DTC's copywright info ?

 

I hope that ayone attempting this, makes absolutely sure that they only short out the socket that pottsy has indicated and that they heed the warning regarding ot touching anythig else.

 

WOW!

I'm guessing the key here is to make a connectin between the 2 sides of the 'fuse'?

Rather than risky the wrath of Mrs TT by nicking some foil, would a spare fuse be easier to use?

 

It's not a fuse hole, it's a big socket designed for a special "shorting tool" plug, as well as tin foil.

 

Pottsy:
Does it have to be the shiney or the matt side of the foil on the outside?Have you stuffed screwed up foil in any other holes?

I was well impressed you had found this feature, (thinking you went round trying all sorts of odd things just to see what happens) until you said about the shorting tool!

I suppose the next step is to have voice prompts for error codes, such as "DTC says NO"!

Terry

 

Computer says no....

 

haha!

 

Pottsy,

You could disconnect a sensor for ex. Air mass flow and IGN on, start engine. Then you will get a check engine.
So you can try to read out that failure.
If it is not working no worries after 2-3 starts (ign off wait 2 minutes, ign start) the check engine light will be off.
(I have already made this before, but I haven't checked it with this foil thing)
Is left hand drive, right hand drive "shortcut" connector the same?

 

PTR - I suppose I could do it on a pre-heat coil...All I meant by the LHD/RHD is that the fuse box will be by your left knee in LHD cars.

 

PTR - I suppose I could do it on a pre-heat coil...

yes, for example...
just to find out if we can read the fault memory of the engine with this method or only MICU and aircon...

 

Will be VERY interesting to see if that error goes after the service!

 

This is not the engine dts socket it is for checking b can,multiplex and guage assembly. You wont find any usefull dtc,s (diagnostic trouble codes) using this system and i strongly advise against this

Speedy
honda diagnostic technician

 

Potsy, just a thought. How about a sticky with a full list of all the
codes you have?

Would save a lot of questions and be a useful reference.




Speedy, as Pottsy doesn't have a full list of diagnostic codes, maybe you could provide the full list for the vehicle.

Many aftermarket OBDII readers are now available so even though only limited codes appear on the screen through Potty's method, there are bound to be others who obtain engine codes etc through the proper OBDII channel.

Thus a full list would be extremely helpful and from a dealers point of view might even generate more repair income as some faults will be brought for fixing thta might otherwsie go unoticed. Everyones a winner.

 

many errors...

Hi all,

I've done this and here are my results:

PA50
DTC B1155

PA50
DTC B1156

PA50
DTC B1157

PA50
DTC B1159

PA50
DTC B1160

PA50
DTC B1188

PA96
DTC B1905


Can anyone decode these DTCs more me?

Thanks in advance!

 

You may want to make a trip to the dealer. There is a problem either with the Gauge unit, or the MICU, or the link between the two.

DTC B1155: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (HLSW Message)
DTC B1156: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (WIPSW Message)
DTC B1157: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (MICU Message)
DTC B1159: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (DOORSW Message)
DTC B1160: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (DRLOCKSW Message)
DTC B1188: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (RM Message)
DTC B1905: Immobilizer-Keyless Control Unit Lost Communication with MICU (DRLOCKSW Message)


Are all of DTCs B1155, B1156, B1157, B1159, B1160, B1165 and B1188 also indicated at the same time?
YES - Replace the gauge control module (tach)

 

You may want to make a trip to the dealer. There is a problem either with the Gauge unit, or the MICU, or the link between the two.

Are all of DTCs B1155, B1156, B1157, B1159, B1160, B1165 and B1188 also indicated at the same time?
YES - Replace the gauge control module (tach)

Hi Pottsy,

thank you very much.

Let me first answer your Question:

The DTCs are not indicated at the same time.
I have to press the "Sel/Res"-Button to jump to the next error.

What does "gauge" mean?
In the English dictionary there are many different german translations for "gauge"... (sorry).

And what's the "MICU"?

And the next question:

I do not have any problem with my car...

So I cannot make a trip to the dealer and tell him,
that I've put Aluminium Foil in the car's hole and the car showed me the errors...

Do you know what I mean?

Anyway the error codes annoy me... So what can I do?

 

It is probably an intermittent fault, so not worth worrying about. If the doors lock and the interior lights work OK, then everything is working.

The Gauge unit is the speedometer and tachometer unit.
The MICU is the little computer in the fuse box that does the alarm, locks and lights.

 

Ah, I see, thanks.

Hm, however... in about 2 months I have to go to the dealer for the 60.000km service.

And I think he should get to know this... What can I tell him?

 

DTC Troubleshooting: B1188

DTC B1188: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the MICU (RM Message)



1.Clear the DTCs with the HDS.

2.Turn the ignition switch OFF, and then back ON (II).

3.Wait for 6 seconds or more.

4.Check for DTCs with the HDS.
Is DTC B1188 indicated?

YES - Go to 5.

NO - Intermittent failure. The gauge control module (tach) is OK at this time.n


5.Check for DTCs with the HDS.
Are all of DTCs B1188 and B2357 also indicated at the same time?

YES - Faulty MICU; replace the under-dash fuse/relay box.n

NO - Replace the gauge control module (tach).n

 

what is PA10 DTC B1008 ?

 

DTC B1008: MICU Lost Communication with Gauge Control Module (Tach) (A/T Message)
NOTE: Before troubleshooting, check the No. 16 (15 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box and No. 10 (7.5 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box.

 

I have PA 50
DTC B1170
DTC B1183

what wrong ? can anyone decode this for me please ?

 

DTC B1170: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the VSA Modulator-control Unit (VSA Message)
DTC B1183: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication with the EPS Control Unit (EPS Message)

Can be intermittent, or can be a problem with the connector on the GCM.

 

Official Complaint to "Pottsy"

1} There I was, logging into this thread in the hope of gaining some useful information re problem finding \ maintenance \ etc.

2} I was under the impression that all communications were to be conducted in English ! ...

3} You guys are holding a discussion in Gibberish \ 'Digitalish' and I understand NOTHING ("sorry - Mr. Fawlty") ...

4} Oh for the the 'good old days' - when I could diagnose and fix \ repair \ upgrade absolutely everything on my 1973 Spitfire, just by looking and listening to the problem ...

p.s. - and routine maintenance involved sewing machine oil (carburettors) a grease gun (nipples !) and lots of bolt tightening ...

# Sound of hard sobbing as 'grumpy old man' hobbles off to kick his dog #

 

Oh Dear

1} There I was, logging into this thread in the hope of gaining some useful information re problem finding \ maintenance \ etc.

2} I was under the impression that all communications were to be conducted in English ! ...

3} You guys are holding a discussion in Gibberish \ 'Digitalish' and I understand NOTHING ("sorry - Mr. Fawlty") ...

4} Oh for the the 'good old days' - when I could diagnose and fix \ repair \ upgrade absolutely everything on my 1973 Spitfire, just by looking and listening to the problem ...

p.s. - and routine maintenance involved sewing machine oil (carburettors) a grease gun (nipples !) and lots of bolt tightening ...

# Sound of hard sobbing as 'grumpy old man' hobbles off to kick his dog #

I bet you have a trilby on your parcel shelf

 

If anyone has any DTCs, post them here and I'll see if I have the decode.

Thanks pottsy that tinfoil was useful, mine was displaying check system with the following error codes

PA10 DTCB1029
PA51 DTCB1241
PA51 DTCB2991

 

PA10 DTCB1029 Ultrasonic Signal Error
PA51 DTCB1241 A Problem in the Blower Motor Circuit
PA51 DTCB2991 Climate Control Unit Lost Communication with Audio HVAC Subdisplay Unit (with audio system) or HVAC Subdisplay Unit (without audio system)

If everything is OK, then I'm going to guess that a gremlin or loose wire has caused these to trigger once. I'd check the alarm works (by setting it off by moving inside the car) and if it does, worry no further.

 

thanks Pottsy,
interestingly ever since i've had it sometimes when i've started the engine the check system has flashed up for less than a second. it seemed to coincide with my foot being on the clutch so i assumed it was that,but maybe it was loose connections

 

i've just checked the alarm and waving my arms about or tapping the sensor doesn't set it off, but it sets it off if i try to open the car with just the key

 

Looks like a trip to the dealer. If you just tell them the ultrasonics are not working, they will plug in the HDS, see all the codes, and hopefully find the problem.

 

So I took a trip to the dealer and they ignored the error codes. which is a little annoying considering the alarm based one which still doesn't work

You can read the rest in the other thread if you want Flashing Glow Plug Icon

But basically I intend to ring them up tomorrow and ask why they didn't act on the error codes.
So before i do...
a) is there any reason i shouldn't tell them i read the error codes with a piece of tin foil
or
b) is there any way me having read them could have cleared them so the garage didnt have a chance (given that i didnt hold down select/reset on them to clear them myself)

thanks

 

So I took a trip to the dealer and they ignored the error codes. which is a little annoying considering the alarm based one which still doesn't work

You can read the rest in the other thread if you want Flashing Glow Plug Icon

But basically I intend to ring them up tomorrow and ask why they didn't act on the error codes.
So before i do...
a) is there any reason i shouldn't tell them i read the error codes with a piece of tin foil
or
b) is there any way me having read them could have cleared them so the garage didnt have a chance (given that i didnt hold down select/reset on them to clear them myself)

thanks

Yeah, i'd love to see their faces when you tell the technician that one. You use a 10p piece of foil and he uses an umpteen thousand pound diagnostic computer.

However, if the codes are there, just ask the simple question regarding what they mean and what can be done to sort it and why werent they dealt with and wiped off the first time it came in.